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                                                10th October 10, 11:37 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Very similar to the custom of the Wren Boys on St. Stephen's Day...
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Canuck of NI   I grew up in a bit of a culturally unique area. Now ethnically cleansed, fortunately without violence. 
 Somewhere in my warehouse of books, aka the spare room, where I'll never find it for a year, I have a book entitled "Memories Of An Ulster Boyhood." In that the author talks about going around on Halloween (I think) and reciting an old verse at every door. I remember the gentleman remarking that the words of the verse probably predated Cromwell. When I've dug the book out, by next year, I'll post the verse- like many things of its day, it's clearly cryptic information, a mneumonic if you will.
 
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                                                12th October 10, 06:53 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	That could of course have been it; I confess I was half hoping someone who also had the book could either confirm what I said or set me straight. Now I will have to dig the thing out- always leads to suggestions revolving around the Clutter Wars show these days.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cajunscot   Very similar to the custom of the Wren Boys on St. Stephen's Day...
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                                                12th October 10, 10:43 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Well, good luck with digging through the pile, Canuck of NI, and post what you find, please.
 I keep everything I have in plastic storage containers.  It helps, but I, unfortunately, don't have enough shelves so finding anything requires unstacking boxes.
 I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                12th October 10, 10:49 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Me, bankers boxes. I could build a sizable wall out of them. These are due to an unfortunate move from a place that had wall-to-wall bookshelves. And then...some would have it that I went mad. Bwahaha!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Bugbear   Well, good luck with digging through the pile, Canuck of NI, and post what you find, please.
 I keep everything I have in plastic storage containers.  It helps, but I, unfortunately, don't have enough shelves so finding anything requires unstacking boxes.
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                12th October 10, 11:05 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Last edited by Bugbear; 12th October 10 at 12:05 PM.
				
				
					Reason: Clarifying which tanking of the economy...
				
			 I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st October 10, 10:50 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Well, if anyone remembers... or cares... the bats have returned this year, and are patrolling my yard.  I can hear their little sonar pings.  I think they are roosting in my palm trees, getting ready for Halloween.
 And looking at the last post, I also bought a couple sets of shelves over the weekend, and I have been reorganizing my little studio/workshop for an upcoming project; there wasn't enough room.
 I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 10, 08:01 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Somehow I don't see Halloween and palm trees going together. What you need for a good Halloween experience is a coldish dark and windy night with the maple trees half stripped of leaves, and with the fallen leaves swirling around in a noisy and scary manner suggestive of spooks and spirits. Throw in a dime store mask that induces a greater or lesser degree of tunnel vision and that is the real Canadian item anyway.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Bugbear   Well, if anyone remembers... or cares... the bats have returned this year, and are patrolling my yard.  I can hear their little sonar pings.  I think they are roosting in my palm trees, getting ready for Halloween.
 And looking at the last post, I also bought a couple sets of shelves over the weekend, and I have been reorganizing my little studio/workshop for an upcoming project; there wasn't enough room.
 
 Of course nowadays, thanks to the ill considered change to daylight saving time that the US legislature made a few years back, it's still light out an hour later and the youngest kids are spared the trauma of going around in such an atmosphere.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 10, 08:07 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Even worse is Christmas and palm trees.  Daylight savings in the US for those states that use it isn't until Nov 7th.  It'll be dark around 7ish.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Canuck of NI   Somehow I don't see Halloween and palm trees going together. What you need for a good Halloween experience is a coldish dark and windy night with the maple trees half stripped of leaves, and with the fallen leaves swirling around in a noisy and scary manner suggestive of spooks and spirits. Throw in a dime store mask that induces a greater or lesser degree of tunnel vision and that is the real Canadian item anyway. 
 Of course nowadays, thanks to the ill considered change to daylight saving time that the US legislature made a few years back, it's still light out an hour later and the youngest kids are spared the trauma of going around in such an atmosphere.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 10, 08:44 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	clocks change here on the 31st october a hour darker each night
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by EHCAlum   Even worse is Christmas and palm trees.  Daylight savings in the US for those states that use it isn't until Nov 7th.  It'll be dark around 7ish. its a bloody nightmare and can be really depressing when its dark at 4.39 pm  i just wish the uk government would realise that farmers don't need that extra hour in the morning when there machinery has sat nav mapping
 
 come december the earliest the sun sets will be 3.43 pm
  a whopping 6hrs and 57s  mins of light( and that's the central belt its worse in the highlands) roll on the december equinox is what i say ach well a extra hour at the halloween party though
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 10, 08:48 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Reminds me of when I lived in the Pacific Northwest.  It would get dark at 3 PM.
				 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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