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30th November 10, 08:45 AM
#1
interesting doublet
I almost bought this doublet on eBay but the bidding got too high for my miniscule student budget. Pity Thought I'd share the picture anyway because the lapel style is kind of interesting.
This doublet is apparently from the 1950s and is made of midnight blue velvet. What struck me about it is the way it buttons up. Looks like a Montrose but not fully double breasted? The seller had a pic with the doublet being worn open (as shown), with a high-necked waistcoat, and a stock/cravat.
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30th November 10, 08:56 AM
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Strikes me that it is a combination jacket. It can be worn as is. Or the single button flap buttons on the inside left side. The left flap/lapel then folds over the right and buttons up.
Open like a Sheriffmuir, closed like Montrose. Quite clever really.
I think one would have to be quite slim to make it work properly.
Regards
Chas
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30th November 10, 05:21 PM
#3
not certain
I am not certain, and would gladly be corrected, but I believe this doublet is a good illustration of why you would want both fronts to go all of the way across. I think there is a stylistic and technical term for buttoning this jacket as shown. The word is WRONG. The under-apron has been "skeletonized" presumably to make it lighter and cooler, but doing so has removed the option of wearing the fronts buttoned back. If both fronts went all of the way across, you could button both fronts back as shown, but since they don't, I do not believe you can.
Of course you CAN, but you can also button your shirt front to your sleeve cuffs. That doesn't make it right or a good idea. Look at the snaps at the bottom on the wearer's right. They are intended to be concealed.
Last edited by MacLowlife; 30th November 10 at 05:25 PM.
Reason: emphasis
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30th November 10, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MacLowlife
I am not certain, and would gladly be corrected, but I believe this doublet is a good illustration of why you would want both fronts to go all of the way across. I think there is a stylistic and technical term for buttoning this jacket as shown. The word is WRONG. The under-apron has been "skeletonized" presumably to make it lighter and cooler, but doing so has removed the option of wearing the fronts buttoned back. If both fronts went all of the way across, you could button both fronts back as shown, but since they don't, I do not believe you can.
Of course you CAN, but you can also button your shirt front to your sleeve cuffs. That doesn't make it right or a good idea. Look at the snaps at the bottom on the wearer's right. They are intended to be concealed.
The more I think about it, the more I think you are right. The doublet should be done up as a Montrose. I posted in haste before I had time to think - always wrong. I did wonder about the snaps and I still do. How do you see them working, as there is a button hole on the other side? I thought that they might be some kind of attachment for the belt - or maybe not. I can't work it out.
Regards
Chas
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30th November 10, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MacLowlife
<snip> I think there is a stylistic and technical term for buttoning this jacket as shown. The word is WRONG. The under-apron has been "skeletonized" presumably to make it lighter and cooler, but doing so has removed the option of wearing the fronts buttoned back.
Seems like a good idea to "skeletonize" the Montrose as I've read people's protests about how hot the double-breasted version can be. I now feel bad for the seller if he was running around with it buttoned up wrong though... kind of like wearing the pleats of one's kilt in the front
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- An t'arm breac dearg
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30th November 10, 06:53 PM
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It's a Montrose, with the outer flap buttoned back.
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30th November 10, 09:10 PM
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Looks like I posted in haste, too
I wonder- what I thought were snaps are probably clear buttons- I see a button hole on the flap that might be a "blind" one- not showing on the front. That bottom closure would likely end up under a belt and thus would not need a silver button. Aren't there some belt hangers peeking out at the sides? I agree that less fabric is probably more comfortable... Thanks for showing us this interesting doublet
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1st December 10, 11:00 AM
#8
This one looks pretty old and worn out but the style is very close to what Lady Chrystel calls her ĞLe Villeneuveğ Doublet:
http://www.lady-chrystel-kilts.com/s...d-doublet.html
Best,
Robert
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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1st December 10, 05:42 PM
#9
Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
It's a Montrose, with the outer flap buttoned back.
Quite right - takes a second or two, but one can easily tell that the doublet is indeed a Montrose. A wee bit confusing at first glance I admit!
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