X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 42
  1. #11
    Join Date
    5th September 05
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    5,144
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by piperdbh View Post
    Suppose you get attacked while testing the bed of a river in rough terrain and you lose your balance while an inert critter floats past you. Would you then need 5 cromachs?
    Then, my friend, you need the Swiss Army Cromach!

    Best

    AA

  2. #12
    Join Date
    4th October 10
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    165
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by piperdbh View Post
    Suppose you get attacked while testing the bed of a river in rough terrain and you lose your balance while an inert critter floats past you. Would you then need 5 cromachs?
    That's what the new improved Swiss army cromach is for!

  3. #13
    Join Date
    5th November 08
    Location
    Marion, NC
    Posts
    4,940
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by auld argonian View Post
    Then, my friend, you need the Swiss Army Cromach!

    Best

    AA
    ...and a piece of rhubarb pie.
    --dbh

    When given a choice, most people will choose.

  4. #14
    Join Date
    2nd January 09
    Location
    Corvallis, Montana
    Posts
    33
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This may help.

    http://knol.google.com/k/the-art-of-...der-tradition#

    Search for stick making, or stick dressing which are more common terms to those involved in the art.

    There is actually quite alot about it on the net.

    Regards

  5. #15
    Join Date
    24th November 05
    Location
    Clodine, Texas
    Posts
    3,379
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by HeathBar View Post
    From what I read somewhere the shape of the cromach head has a purpose. The opening would be the right size for a sheeps neck making it easy for the shepard to control the sheep. And the little upturn (which is now mostly a carved thistle) has a purpose as well. If one of the sheep was giving birth, then the shepard could stick the staff in the ground and then hang a lantern from the upturn. This would leave both of his hands free to assist in the birthing. It makes sense, but it could just be a romantic legend.

    I want to say that most Scottish made cromachs are made of hawthorne for the staff and a rams horn for the head. But I suppose it could be made from a shaped piece of wood as well.

    I don't know if a market stick is considered a cromach. It has a much smaller opening in the head. This is used to grab the sheep by the leg.
    Might just be semantics, or regionality, but in the sheep handling business (in which my wife is surprisingly well versed) the stick used to grab sheep by the leg is called a Leg Cleek and has a smaller metal hook.
    The fancy horn or metal topped "market stick" is a decendant of the plain shepherds crook, but a bit of a "show off" stick to be taken to the market when buying/selling stock, etc.. The cromachs one usually sees on this forum and at Highland events remind me more of market sticks.
    Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
    "If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"

  6. #16
    Join Date
    23rd May 06
    Location
    Far NW Corner of Washington State, USA (48° 45' 51.5808" N / -122° 30' 36.6228" W)
    Posts
    5,715
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zardoz View Post
    Might just be semantics, or regionality, but in the sheep handling business (in which my wife is surprisingly well versed) the stick used to grab sheep by the leg is called a Leg Cleek and has a smaller metal hook.
    The fancy horn or metal topped "market stick" is a decendant of the plain shepherds crook, but a bit of a "show off" stick to be taken to the market when buying/selling stock, etc.. The cromachs one usually sees on this forum and at Highland events remind me more of market sticks.
    You'd be correct "Z".

    In an older (closed) thread I started back in 2008, there are some books listed on stick making, along with photos of Jock Scot's wonderful looking cromach you might find of interest.

    You can view the thread here.

    I've always wanted a curly horned one myself, like the one to the far right (below), though I also like the middle one as well



    ...these last two pics were on the older thread in the OP, but got lost somewhere:



    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

  7. #17
    Join Date
    19th October 09
    Location
    South Queensferry, Scotland
    Posts
    616
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Useful for establishing the depth of snow drifts before struggling through them.
    It's coming yet for a' that,
    That Man to Man, the world o'er,
    Shall brothers be for a' that. - RB

  8. #18
    Join Date
    15th October 09
    Location
    Dallas area
    Posts
    1,184
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    While I've had never heard the term cromach, staves have been used in pagan ceremonies. Pagans are hardly unique in that though, to be very honest there are very few household items that haven't been used in religous ceremonies of many religons throughout time.

    I wouldn't worry to much about the "occult" uses. If you look hard enough you will find a claim on just about anything you touch that is old enough from cards to brooms.

    Jim

  9. #19
    Join Date
    5th September 05
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    5,144
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Drac View Post
    While I've had never heard the term cromach, staves have been used in pagan ceremonies. Pagans are hardly unique in that though, to be very honest there are very few household items that haven't been used in religous ceremonies of many religons throughout time.

    Jim
    The Lord Of The Rings by ol' JRR Tolkien abounds with characters who bear staves imbued with magic.

    There's the Staff of Elrond, the Staff of Gandalf...

    ...I, myself, carry what is know (and feared) far and wide as "The Staff Of The Meyer And Bessie Feinberg Jewish Community Center"...it has aided me many times in fording streams, fending off Balrogs and finding the leanest corned beef sandwiches in any burg that I visit.

    Best

    AA

  10. #20
    Join Date
    2nd July 08
    Location
    Port Washington, NY
    Posts
    855
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by auld argonian View Post
    The Lord Of The Rings by ol' JRR Tolkien abounds with characters who bear staves imbued with magic.

    There's the Staff of Elrond, the Staff of Gandalf...

    ...I, myself, carry what is know (and feared) far and wide as "The Staff Of The Meyer And Bessie Feinberg Jewish Community Center"...it has aided me many times in fording streams, fending off Balrogs and finding the leanest corned beef sandwiches in any burg that I visit.

    Best

    AA
    OK, settle down now, you've made me spit my coffee twice in the same thread. You're great, you are!
    "Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Do they just want to talk to you?
    By Jimmy in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 30th October 10, 05:48 AM
  2. What others talk about ...
    By jeremy j starche in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 24th June 10, 12:36 PM
  3. How to talk her into it?
    By Kerr the Walker in forum Kilt Advice
    Replies: 61
    Last Post: 14th April 09, 08:28 PM
  4. Talk me out of it!
    By beloitpiper in forum Kilt Advice
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 12th July 06, 05:54 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0