Interesting Irish kilt article

[MacSpadger]

We all know that the kilt started out with the leine, and both Irish and Scottish wore that commonly. I think in Matt's article it might have stated that even the highlanders dyed their leine saffron as well. I guess the Scots just evolved it differently than their cousins across the sea.

I have never seen how the kilt evolved from the leine. A leine was basically a long linen shirt. Leine still means shirt today, in both Scotland and Ireland.
Yes, the Irish and Scots both dyed their linen shirts a saffron colour, but there is much well recorded evidence in Scotland that the leine was a long linen shirt worn underneath the belted plaid or even the kilt itself.
There are several accounts of Highlanders flinging aside their woolen plaids in order to charge the enemy in their leines/shirts without the heavy plaids getting in the way.
Surely it's well documented that the kilt (feileadh beag) is descended from the belted plaid, (feileadh mhor)?

[Nick the DSM]

I have never seen how the kilt evolved from the leine. A leine was basically a long linen shirt. Leine still means shirt today, in both Scotland and Ireland.
Yes, the Irish and Scots both dyed their linen shirts a saffron colour, but there is much well recorded evidence in Scotland that the leine was a long linen shirt worn underneath the belted plaid or even the kilt itself.
There are several accounts of Highlanders flinging aside their woolen plaids in order to charge the enemy in their leines/shirts without the heavy plaids getting in the way.
Surely it's well documented that the kilt (feileadh beag) is descended from the belted plaid, (feileadh mhor)?

Yes, ofcourse. But it started off as a leine with a mantle wrapped the body first before it became the belted plaid, right? That's what I meant beforehand, just a starting point.

[Bugbear]

Yes, ofcourse. But it started off as a leine with a mantle wrapped the body first before it became the belted plaid, right? That's what I meant beforehand, just a starting point.

Are you going to start wearing a Leine and brat to out "authentic" every one else?

There's been some interesting information, like that Italian garment, discussed in this thread.

I would like to someday get a good look at how a lein might have been pleated according to the reenactors.

[Nick the DSM]

Are you going to start wearing a Leine and brat to out "authentic" every one else?

There's been some interesting information, like that Italian garment, discussed in this thread.

I would like to someday get a good look at how a lein might have been pleated according to the reenactors.

Out authentic?

Nah, I'd wear one to a ren fest and that'd be it.

[Bugbear]

Out authentic?

Nah, I'd wear one to a ren fest and that'd be it.

Ya, like authentic, dude.

You could bring them back into style.

I'm just joking with you.

[artificer]

Ya, like authentic, dude.

You could bring them back into style.

I'm just joking with you.

I plan on bringing back nudity, tempered with extremely long body hair, as the ORIGINAL authentic.

(Don't confuse this with those ape-peoples who walked on their knuckles... they're too 'before the curve' to count)

ith:

[Bugbear]

I plan on bringing back nudity, tempered with extremely long body hair, as the ORIGINAL authentic.

(Don't confuse this with those ape-peoples who walked on their knuckles... they're too 'before the curve' to count)

ith:

Na, man, the sixties were a little before my time.

[Nick the DSM]

Ya, like authentic, dude.

You could bring them back into style.

I'm just joking with you.

Forget kilts or everyone should just wear leine!

[Bugbear]

Forget kilts or everyone should just wear leine!

Sometimes I feel that way... Then I remember I'm on a kilt forum.

My male ancestors were wearing trousers or breeches by the time they left the old-world. I suppose tunics were worn for a time in the Southwest; should probably look that up.

It wasn't the traditional garb I inherited though. The best I could probably do is a poncho or perhaps a wearing-blanket.