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14th February 11, 09:10 AM
#11
 Originally Posted by Detroitpete
At the same time, there is no law or mandate that states that the 'profane' need to accept or even consider these titles, regardless of thier reasons or symbolism. I appreciate heraldry, but as someone who lives in a country with no peerage, I most likely do not give them the importance as some others might.
Ah, but you truly believe America has no "peerage", then I have some ocean-front property in Arizona you might be interested in. 
We have an an aristocracy since the Revolution. It is not well known that both Washington & Adams actually demanded citizens refer to them as "Your Excellency".
Yes George Washington is said to have enjoyed heraldry.
Several of our important civilian and military learders have and most likely, still do enjoy the art and science of heraldry. Even Ronald Reagan's interesting path to arms is an example--however, this does not change my thinking with regard to peerage titles, and military titles (outside of active service) used in the US. It does inform my understanding and thank you for that.
To think that someone would actually PAY for a peerage title...
To think that one feels the need to add a title to their name that was not given them...
To think that in the US, one might actually expect other citizens to accept and defer to such a peerage title?
Complete self engrandisement----just my opinion.
And btw, the word "profane" in this instance is not pejorative, but refers to those who are not members of fraternal organizations such as Freemasonry.
And as far as fraternal titles go, the highest one can achieve in the fraternity that my family has belong to since before immigrating from Scotland is simply "Brother", the same one born by Washington AND Robert Burns. Not self-engrandisement at all.
Horses for courses...
T.
Last edited by macwilkin; 14th February 11 at 09:46 AM.
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