Fake Scots Titles

[Dale Seago]

To think that someone would actually PAY for a peerage title...
To think that one feels the need to add a title to their name that was not given them...
To think that in the US, one might actually expect other citizens to accept and defer to such a peerage title?

Complete self engrandisement----just my opinion.

Just want to point out that we have a Baron on this forum who purchased his title, and whom I've known for decades. We first met during the Vietnam war when we were in different branches of American military service, he being in the Army and I being a Marine. I later fell to the Dark Side and got an Army commission, and at one point we ended up serving as officers in the same unit for several years.

Anyway, I can state unequivocally that most of the above description does not apply to him. The Barony was originally associated with his clan. He's passionate about it, and uses the name and his personal funds to support sanctuaries and other conservation efforts for endangered and exploited animals. He is a person of all-too-rare integrity who gives, materially, far more than anything he gets in prestige from being a Scottish Baron.

[Sketraw]

Just want to point out that we have a Baron on this forum who purchased his title, and whom I've known for decades. We first met during the Vietnam war when we were in different branches of American military service, he being in the Army and I being a Marine. I later fell to the Dark Side and got an Army commission, and at one point we ended up serving as officers in the same unit for several years.

Anyway, I can state unequivocally that most of the above description does not apply to him. The Barony was originally associated with his clan. He's passionate about it, and uses the name and his personal funds to support sanctuaries and other conservation efforts for endangered and exploited animals. He is a person of all-too-rare integrity who gives, materially, far more than anything he gets in prestige from being a Scottish Baron.

I dont think we even mentioned the purchase of Scottish Feudal Baronies which can indeed be purchased, if you have a spare £50,000 + and is the only title that can be, although since the abolition of feudal tenure in 2004 they are no longer attached to the land and no longer listed in the Land Registry of Scotland.

[Dale Seago]

I dont think we even mentioned the purchase of Scottish Feudal Baronies which can indeed be purchased. . .

Actually I believe this WAS mentioned earlier in the thread.

. . .if you have a spare £50,000 + and is the only title that can be. . .

Yes. Though from what I gather just having the money may be a necessary, but not in itself sufficient, qualification.

. . .although since the abolition of feudal tenure in 2004 they are no longer attached to the land and no longer listed in the Land Registry of Scotland.

Quite correct, though at least the title is heritable.

(EDIT: Thought I remembered it being mentioned:

I fear the decision to allow the legal sale of feudal baronies has only made the sale of fake titles are the more easy to perpetrate on innocents.

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