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    Quote Originally Posted by Morris at Heathfield View Post
    I believe OC Richard was referring to the German-looking "Mohr" in "Angus Mohr". Unless it's a pun, it would be a misspelling, although "Angus" is not really Gaelic either, but an Anglicized form of the Gaelic Aonghas. Fully Anglicized, however, you would expect the band's name to be written something like "Angus More".


    His father, of course, being Donald (Domhnall).
    Oops! sorry. I did not read the post properly. Mohr is a german surname and I think has Celtic roots in one of the Celtic languages of which Gaelic is only one of several, which include Welsh, Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Bretton, Manx and Cornish and have their source in central Europe. So it is not misspelled Gaelic. I cannot see any problem with the name and the band is Great, love their music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morris at Heathfield View Post
    I believe OC Richard was referring to the German-looking "Mohr" in "Angus Mohr". Unless it's a pun, it would be a misspelling, although "Angus" is not really Gaelic either, but an Anglicized form of the Gaelic Aonghas. Fully Anglicized, however, you would expect the band's name to be written something like "Angus More".
    Exactly... mor means big or great. There's no such word as "mohr" in Gaelic- in fact there could not be because it violates the spelling rules.

    What's happened, I suppose, is that the "h" from mhor got accidentaly shifted over one space, as it were.

    Same thing in dubh (black) which is often misspelt dhub or dhu.

    With the firefighter pipe band, what they were trying to do was translate "honor the fallen" into Gaelic. First problem, "fallen" is a euphemism for "dead" in English but evidently not in Gaelic, where I'm told it simply means literally something which has fallen down. Second, they used the singular. Third, they didn't use the right voice, so that

    "Honor the Fallen"
    came out
    "The Honoring of the One who Fell Down"

    They did end up correcting it on one of their logos, but not others.

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    "[QUOTE=OC Richard;974358]Exactly... mor means big or great. There's no such word as "mohr" in Gaelic- in fact there could not be because it violates the spelling rules.

    What's happened, I suppose, is that the "h" from mhor got accidentaly shifted over one space, as it were.

    Same thing in dubh (black) which is often misspelt dhub or dhu."

    OC Richard, I appreciate your tone of conciliation, and I can see where word choice within a motto or phrase can create confusion. However, I just want to clarify that Angus Mohr did not accidentally misspell their name. They were aware of the more traditional spelling, but for a variety of reasons chose Mohr.

    Given its association with personal identity and cultural pride, it's no wonder we become so attached to the nuances of language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    The band might be great but it puts me off somewhat when people use Gaelic words but mispell them.

    A local Firefighter Pipe Band had an incorrect Irish phrase on their logo (both in spelling and in choice of words) and explaining the situation to them didn't seem to have any impact.

    I guess it's like the t-shirts I see Japanese tourists wearing which have misspelt nonsensical quasi-English phrases on them. When I was in Japan I looked and looked but all I could find were shirts with correct English on them!
    Wait... Angus Mohr is a name... not words or a phrase. "Aonghas Mòr has been called "the first MacDonald" by one historian,[1] namely because he was the first of the dynasty created by his father to rule Islay."
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    I love when the bag pipes are part of the rock music, drums guitar and all. Don't get me wrong I do like jigs and reels that pure pipes but I love when it rocks.

    The folk style is good but I grew up on hair bands

    Jim

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