Should have been a kilt jacket...

[CMcG]

Again, a jacket that doesn't look too good with p@nts because it is too short in the waist. Just the right height for a kilt though!

[Whidbey78]

Again, a jacket that doesn't look too good with p@nts because it is too short in the waist. Just the right height for a kilt though!

Now this is one I could wear. It's much more my style in its simplicity. It's kind of like a Sherifmuir(sp?) but with a little bit of an asian twist.

[CMcG]

Now this is one I could wear. It's much more my style in its simplicity. It's kind of like a Sherifmuir(sp?) but with a little bit of an asian twist.

It's funny that you should say that about the simplicity... I was thinking it needed a little more Epaulettes maybe?

[MacLowlife]

nahhh, only a little cuff ornamentation. Maybe flaps for the pockets...

PS, where do we find this jacket?

[CMcG]

nahhh, only a little cuff ornamentation. Maybe flaps for the pockets...

PS, where do we find this jacket?

Here, good sir, is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ht_15605wt_969

Do you have something in mind?

[Whidbey78]

It's funny that you should say that about the simplicity... I was thinking it needed a little more Epaulettes maybe?

That's just my personal style. I tend to favor not having anything that doesn't serve a purpose. If they were already on the jacket I'd still dig it. I wouldn't add them, but I wouldn't remove them either. Epaulets would look right at home on this one though.

nahhh, only a little cuff ornamentation. Maybe flaps for the pockets...

I think it would look best without pockets at all, but a gauntlet cuff, cut straight at the top or with a curved peak--kind of a rounded off version of a Brian Boru style along the outside vs the back of the sleeve--with the one button it has now would look good. But I'd still take it as-is.

Here, good sir, is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ht_15605wt_969

Do you have something in mind?

Hmmmmmm. I'm tempted...just not sure how often it would actually get used. Almost never in reality, but it's still tempting.

[MacLowlife]

Thanks for the eBay link. I do not see this one on eBay US. It being poly-cotton, I wonder about how dressed up it can be, but it might well work. If you check out mess dress jackets, they often have bucket style cuffs in a contrasting color, which are simple enough to add. As it is, this jacket ( the one with the standup collar and slit pockets) has elements of dress, elements of military, and then the cotton fabrication, which is a little more daywear oriented. I do think one can wear cotton, especially nice, pressed cotton, for certain dressy occasions- and it brings the advantage of being lightweight.

HOWEVER, as an old man, I find more and more truth to what they say about polishing a t*rd and converting sows ears into silk purses. I am constantly tempted, but I try hard to keep my money in my pocket and my eyes on the road. And, of course, I am limited by the number of times I have already jumped.

For my money, the best repurposed jackets are dress mess jackets and their civilian counterparts. Next would be the shorter Korean blazers mentioned above. Next would be Ike jackets and their ilk. You do not have to monkey with the construction of any of these- just change the buttons and add cuff treatments as you desire.


Next would come regular Saxon jackets and blazers (and some uniform tunics), which must be shortened, (often including adjusting pocket flaps) to become Argyll style jackets. I expect next would be a tailcoat converted into a PC, which can be simpler because of the lack of waist pockets.

Climbing the scale of rarity and difficulty, I would suggest next either conversion of a plain saxon blazer into a PC or conversion of a blazer or tailcoat into a regulation doublet . Either of these involves actually monkeying with tails and tashes as well as contending with pockets and possibly button stance. It is possible to run into a Nehru style velvet jacket and I have been thinking of creating tashes/ skirt flaps out of the regular blazer skirts of one of them. But paying for this kind of work probably costs more than a good rental -return PC...

Some wise person has already pointed out that you need to balance all of this exuberant tailoring with your own needs. If you are fortunate enough to attend Highland balls on a regular basis, I would endorse going as big as you can. If you wear a kilt fewer than a dozen times annually and most of them in the same rooms with men in sweaters, I would suggest that versatility has its virtues. Get the lifestyle first, then the wardrobe. I know, because I have clothes for occasions I have yet to experience. The money would be useful now and then. Can you say Argyll*, friends?

None of this is to say that altering a navy velvet or moleskin blazer into a special evening jacket is not worthwhile. Of course it is. But so is giving a third of your riches to the poor. It just may not be practical right now. But it may make you feel very very good, which is worth something, too.

Please pardon my rant- and remember that I am preaching to myself as much as to anyone.




*OH, and one more thing- a dark blue Argyll is as appropriate as a black one for most formal events and it looks a lot better ( IMHO) in the daylight. It also looks less like you ordered Option B from the Kilt Department at Sears...

M'll

[ForresterModern]

Here, good sir, is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ht_15605wt_969

Do you have something in mind?

Just checked this link and the jacket is way to fitted for my build. On top of that the largest available size is XXXL, which when converted their cm measurements to inches still only comes out at a 43" chest. Yikes that is some small sizing--about 8 inches too small for me.

[CMcG]

Just checked this link and the jacket is way to fitted for my build. On top of that the largest available size is XXXL, which when converted their cm measurements to inches still only comes out at a 43" chest. Yikes that is some small sizing--about 8 inches too small for me.

Yes, they're in Asian sizes. In North America, I'm a medium and I'd take an XL in one of these jackets

Thanks for the eBay link. I do not see this one on eBay US. <snip>

They ship worldwide, so that's funny that they're not listed on the US eBay... the trick to shopping on eBay sites outside your locale is to find something you like and then add it to your "wishlist." That way it will show up on your eBay homepage. When in doubt, just contact the seller in regards to shipping.

<snip>
HOWEVER, as an old man, I find more and more truth to what they say about polishing a t*rd and converting sows ears into silk purses. I am constantly tempted, but I try hard to keep my money in my pocket and my eyes on the road. And, of course, I am limited by the number of times I have already jumped.

<snip>

Some wise person has already pointed out that you need to balance all of this exuberant tailoring with your own needs. If you are fortunate enough to attend Highland balls on a regular basis, I would endorse going as big as you can. If you wear a kilt fewer than a dozen times annually and most of them in the same rooms with men in sweaters, I would suggest that versatility has its virtues. Get the lifestyle first, then the wardrobe. I know, because I have clothes for occasions I have yet to experience. The money would be useful now and then. Can you say Argyll*, friends?

For my money, the best repurposed jackets are ones that don't require any exuberant tailoring and cost very little. The jackets in this thread fit that bill, though they aren't necessarily THCD. I agree that trying to alter them to fit the traditional mould might indeed be more trouble than it's worth...

Besides, I already have a black barathea Braemar and tweed Crail, so I'm essentially covered. In considering the types of jackets in this thread (rather than traditional jackets or doublets) I'm exploring possibilities for something different. Not really a need as much of a want... my birthday is coming and being a kiltie gives friends and family an endless source for gifts

The cotton or leather ones with zippers are definitely more casual. The Asian one could go either way depending on the hand of the material. The velvet one might have some potential as a more formal jacket... with a simple swap to Highland buttons and removing the patch pockets.

MacLl advice is wise though. If one were looking at a first kilt jacket, then Argyll all the way!