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25th March 11, 12:22 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by Cygnus
That is, I think, the preferred achievement at the moment.
However, the lion rampant is a carry-over from the arms of James Swan who had in base a lion passant guardant Argent. So it would keep the lion, at least.
What if,...
One Swan, for the family name.
The rampant lion to carry over from James Swan.
The boat to represent your family line that came to these shores.
Since it's not uncommon to change arms after a major change in clan/family...
My family coat of arms (Irish) were supposedly changed after the surrender and regrant to King Henry the VIII and that ancestor was made an Earl.
Paul
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25th March 11, 12:24 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by davidlpope
Lyon can then difference them as necessary without the final result being overly busy...
I don't think that is far off from what Lyon might do. Just looking at the matriculated arms of some forum members, one will notice that not being overly busy doesn't seem to be a concern at Lyon Court.
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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25th March 11, 12:34 PM
#13
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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25th March 11, 12:37 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
Vera nice...did you "do" those yourself?
T.
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25th March 11, 12:42 PM
#15
Very nice, SlackerDrummer. Great design and execution.
I'm curious to know about your crest and the reasoning behind it. Care to share?
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25th March 11, 12:44 PM
#16
Very nice looking SD.
I recognize the Celtic cross, what do the two stars represent ?
Do you know what the moto translates to?
Paul
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25th March 11, 12:50 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
Hmmm: No picture or file seems to be present on my screen??? Any other method available to post the design?
[I][B]Ad fontes[/B][/I]
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25th March 11, 12:52 PM
#18
 Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
Just looking at the matriculated arms of some forum members, one will notice that not being overly busy doesn't seem to be a concern at Lyon Court.
True...
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25th March 11, 12:55 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by davidlpope
Just an observation- why not have them more simply:
Per chevron azure and or, two swans ("wings addorsed and inverted" if you really want to...)proper in chief and in base a lymphad sable.
Lyon can then difference them as necessary without the final result being overly busy...
Those would be the "undifferenced arms" - but, with the number of generations between me and the ancestor for whom I would be petitioning a grant of arms, I don't think there's any way to make it less complicated.
That, and I am fascinated by cadency (particularly the Stodart System), and wanted to try my hand at it.
To illustrate the number of differences required, here's the basic genealogical breakdown:
My father is a second son.
My grandfather was a fifth son.
My great-grandfather was a first son.
My great-great grandfather was born in Scotland and was the son of the daughter of the supposed cheifly heir and G. Swan.
So, my great-grandfather would inherit the undifferenced arms.
My grandfather's arms would be differenced by making the line of partition castellated.
My father's arms would be differenced by a bordure Or, which would become chequy or counter-compony azure and or if part of the field is Or.
That's really the most aesthetically-pleasing (and appropriate) way that I could come up with to show the differences.
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25th March 11, 01:04 PM
#20
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Vera nice...did you "do" those yourself?
All by my lonesome.
 Originally Posted by Cygnus
Very nice, SlackerDrummer. Great design and execution.
I'm curious to know about your crest and the reasoning behind it. Care to share?
It is a groundhog (I was born on Groundhog Day) holding a sprig of Long-Leaf Pine (representing North Carolina, where I was born).
 Originally Posted by Fitzy
Very nice looking SD.
I recognize the Celtic cross, what do the two stars represent ?
Do you know what the moto translates to?
The stars come from the seal of the Cherokee. There are two simply for the sake of symmetry. I wanted both symbols, but wanted the cross in the more prominent position. Not that you asked, but the barrulet dancetty throughout in the main field represents the rope of a rope tension drum.
The motto translates "to live bravely".
 Originally Posted by Detroitpete
Hmmm: No picture or file seems to be present on my screen??? Any other method available to post the design?
Do you have images blocked from imageshack.us? If that's not the case, then I'm not sure what the problem could be. On another forum, there have been issues where images did not show up if the "www" was missing from the URL in one's browser.
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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