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[Joseph McMillan]

[*]my gf, the eldest, would probably be undifferenced (although his parents didn't marry until later. Depends on how strictly Lyon interprets the rule of illegitimacy. At times, the birth was later deemed to be legitimate if the parents wed.)

By rights, he should determine legitimacy according to the laws of the place and time where they lived. Under Scots law, children have always been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of the parents.

[Morris at Heathfield]

Arms: Sable, a vacuum chamber passant regardant proper, flanged or, on a viewport of the first a mullet of eight points purpure.

Crest: A mullet of eight points purpure.

Motto: A potentia astrali ad astra.

[JSFMACLJR]

Quarterly, 1st, Argent, a rock Gules; 2nd, Or, a dexter hand fesswise couped Gules holding a cross crosslet fitchee in pale Azure; 3rd, Or, on a sea undy Azure and Argent a lymphad sails furled oars in saltire Sable flagged Gules; 4th, Argent, in chief two eagles' heads respectant erased Gules beaked and eyed Azure, in base a salmon naiant Proper, overall a cross raguly Sable charged at the centre with a maple leaf and in chief and in base with two fleurs de lys Or and in the flanks with two salmon naiant Argent, a bordure indented Vert. Above the Shield is placed an Helm befitting his degree with a Mantling Gules doubled Argent, and on a wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest a beaver sejant erect holding- in its dexter paw a Lochaber axe Proper, and in an Escrol over the same this Motto "SEEK HONOUR BY DOING GOOD."

[creagdhubh]

Quarterly, 1st, Argent, a rock Gules; 2nd, Or, a dexter hand fesswise couped Gules holding a cross crosslet fitchee in pale Azure; 3rd, Or, on a sea undy Azure and Argent a lymphad sails furled oars in saltire Sable flagged Gules; 4th, Argent, in chief two eagles' heads respectant erased Gules beaked and eyed Azure, in base a salmon naiant Proper, overall a cross raguly Sable charged at the centre with a maple leaf and in chief and in base with two fleurs de lys Or and in the flanks with two salmon naiant Argent, a bordure indented Vert. Above the Shield is placed an Helm befitting his degree with a Mantling Gules doubled Argent, and on a wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest a beaver sejant erect holding- in its dexter paw a Lochaber axe Proper, and in an Escrol over the same this Motto "SEEK HONOUR BY DOING GOOD."

And your arms are quite superb Sandy!

[Cygnus]

And your arms are quite superb Sandy!

I agree - I've always been fond of them, especially your crest.

[WVHighlander]

Those are fantastic Coats of Arms. I have the ones I designed which are ok, simple. I will apply to the Lyon soon and I am curious what he will come up with.

I tried using the bit map but it didn't work for me, or I would have posted my creation up here.

[EagleJCS]

By rights, he should determine legitimacy according to the laws of the place and time where they lived. Under Scots law, children have always been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of the parents.

I suspected as much. I suppose, then, I should get used to the idea of a bordure compony ... I'm not ashamed of my g-grandfather (I never knew him, and my Dad barely remembers him), but I am of his behavior - long story short, he was a cad. My gf tried to obfuscate the facts, but with a little digging and some simple math, it came out (just a few years ago, but well after he passed).

I suppose I (or a lawyer) will have to research the case law of the time for the jurisdiction(s) in question (US, KY, IL) to determine his legitimacy. There was/is no question of paternity, just whether or not his birth was made legitimate by the subsequent marriage of his parents at a later date.

Thanks for the responses, Cygnus & Joseph!

[EagleJCS]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph McMillan
By rights, he should determine legitimacy according to the laws of the place and time where they lived. Under Scots law, children have always been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of the parents.

I suppose I (or a lawyer) will have to research the case law of the time for the jurisdiction(s) in question (US, KY, IL) to determine his legitimacy. There was/is no question of paternity, just whether or not his birth was made legitimate by the subsequent marriage of his parents at a later date.

Thanks for the responses, Cygnus & Joseph!

Resurrecting a post from WAYYY back...

YAY! I now have it on good authority that my gf was legitimate, at least in the eyes of the law (in KY anyway). A lawyer friend of mine found the applicable KY statute and a couple of similar cases predating my gf's birth. We still aren't 100% certain he was born in KY (no birth certificate was filed in KY at or shortly after the time of his birth).