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30th March 11, 07:45 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
The two examples you showed to us are both computer generated images, rather than photographs of woven fabric. The issue you are discussing is not really one of choosing between two different Gordon tartans, but simply one of which mill's "blue" you like better than another. That will of course vary from mill to mill.
If you like the shade in your friend's kilt, why not ask him where he got it, and does he know what mill wove the cloth?
Barring that, do as others have suggested and request sample swatches from various mills before you order your kilt.
He has no idea......it was an old band kilt from a band long since dissolved.
I've got a photo of me wearing it - I'll try to take a photo of the photo (best I can do, no scanner) so you can see the colours I'm looking at.
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by RockyR
Your FIRST picture looks like a variation of Gordon... it has black lines surrounding the yellow stripe. All of the mills in Scotland weave it without the black surrounds. The 'Standard' Gordon tartan is just yellow flanked by green.
The one I've worn doesn't have the black I'm quite sure - it was more the purple hue I was pointing to.
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by OC Richard
The specific shade of blue varies from mill to mill, from weight to weight, and from colour scheme to colour scheme.
There are a number of available colour schemes such as modern, ancient, weathered, muted, etc.
Each mill's "modern" will have slightly different shades.
And the same mill's colours/shades might vary a bit between their 13oz and their 17oz fabric.
So yes you will need swatches.
People often don't notice, by the way, how much purple is present in the colour we call "navy blue".
The reason I asked this question was to find whether or not anyone knows which mills tend to have a more "purply" blue than a true "blue" blue.
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Gryphon noir
I'd suggest getting a swatch first to be sure you get the one you like.
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by AKScott
Definitely order swatches. Eight or ten bucks each, takes about two months to get them in Royal Mail, worth every penny. Sounds like you have time.
And do order one swatch from the Loch Carron Strome line. I got a piece in about a week ago, I see that the tuck-in selvedge on it is going to make the bottom edge of the kilt almost bullet proof.
EDIT: Also keep an eye on the remants pages. Remnants of double wide under one meter long are often priced like swatches. http://www.scotweb.co.uk/buy/tartan-...amily_id=40770
Would prefer to narrow down the mills first before sending out requests for three different colour schemes from 5 different mills at how ever many pounds a swatch.
Thanks for the information and replies so far.......it seems like there isn't any kind of easy way around this unfortunately.
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30th March 11, 01:00 PM
#12
Have you tried talking to Doug at StKilda Retail (All Things Tartan) over in Brisbane. He may well be able to narrow down the mills. I know that he has a number of swatch books from several mills
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
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30th March 11, 05:00 PM
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No, I haven't yet. Next time I'm heading through that way I'll drop in and have a chat to them about it.....I hadn't even thought of that to be honest!
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31st March 11, 02:04 AM
#14
If you are looking for the navy blue (purple) version, you need only order the modern color scheme for your swatch. Ancient (lovat blue) and weathered (gray) are not going to be what you are looking for.
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