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    Quote Originally Posted by Spc. Scott View Post
    Sounds like the church that I grew up in as well...

    As I said in the first thread on this article, my other parent was an atheist. It took me a long, long time to get past it. I am now not afraid to look into the historical stuff that is commonly presented in seminaries, and have enjoyed reading through many other religion's writings. The fear is gone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Schiehallion View Post
    Well he'd be partly right if he was at our Scottish Dance club The Gay Gordons ... we are kilted and many of us are GAY but not all of us ... there are lesbians, married women in kilts (as their husbands don't dance), straight married couples and single men. We are inclusive and reflect our society at large. It is so dangerous to assume a persons sexuality by what they wear. One of our lesbian members says she wears the kilt because its "So masculine and manly"

    There is also a Biblical reference to not wear fabrics of mixed material... so poly-cotton is SO VERY SINFUL. Maybe that's why I always wear all wool kilts Ha ha ha!

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    The seminary I attended was the host to the Highland Games for a number of years, then the games outgrew the parking space!

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    Auld Argonian wrote: “I demand that they produce Jesus's troousers.”

    Yes, and John the Baptist’s, and David’s, and Jeremiah’s too.
    The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
    [Proverbs 14:27]

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    Reminds me of an old joke. The teenage son of a strict, conservative Christian minister father was asking the old man to borrow the family car to have an evening out with some friends.

    "Dad, can I borrow the car tonight?"

    "Not until you clean up your act and start looking and behaving like a proper, Christian boy! Look at yourself! When's the last time you got a haircut? Your hair's getting so long you're starting to look like a hippie! No haircut -- no car!"

    The son protested: "But dad! Lots of men in the Bible wore their hair long. Jesus, John the Baptist, Samson...."

    The father interjected: "Yes... And you'll also notice that they WALKED everywhere they went!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDNSushi View Post
    Reminds me of an old joke. The teenage son of a strict, conservative Christian minister father was asking the old man to borrow the family car to have an evening out with some friends.

    "Dad, can I borrow the car tonight?"

    "Not until you clean up your act and start looking and behaving like a proper, Christian boy! Look at yourself! When's the last time you got a haircut? Your hair's getting so long you're starting to look like a hippie! No haircut -- no car!"

    The son protested: "But dad! Lots of men in the Bible wore their hair long. Jesus, John the Baptist, Samson...."

    The father interjected: "Yes... And you'll also notice that they WALKED everywhere they went!"

    Should have asked to borrow the donkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbear View Post
    As I said in the first thread on this article, my other parent was an atheist. It took me a long, long time to get past it. I am now not afraid to look into the historical stuff that is commonly presented in seminaries, and have enjoyed reading through many other religion's writings. The fear is gone.
    Ted, likewise when I was a young Christian I was afraid to look at things that might challenge my faith or question my beliefs... Things like the existence of UFOs and aliens. Until I read about the Jesuits who studied astronomy and operated the Vatican Observatory saw absolutely NO reason to be afraid of what they might find! The magazine article I read quoted one of these Jesuit scientists when asked about this very thing, as saying that it would be a truly weak faith in an impotent God if He had to protected from fact, knowledge, and truth?

    José Funes, the director of the Vatican observatory even said (in regards to what would happen if alien life were discovered): “This does not conflict with our faith because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God.”

    This was very encouraging for me! After that, I felt much more confident opening my mind to learn from ANY source, without feeling like I would get to a point in my life where I'd learn "too much" and disprove God's existence. It was my joy to discover that it didn't work that way... And many years later, and many books read later, and a Master's degree later, I still marvel at how amazing God is to me!

    Anyway, this is getting rather off-topic.... I'd better quit while I'm ahead...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDNSushi View Post
    Ted, likewise when I was a young Christian I was afraid to look at things that might challenge my faith or question my beliefs... Things like the existence of UFOs and aliens. Until I read about the Jesuits who studied astronomy and operated the Vatican Observatory saw absolutely NO reason to be afraid of what they might find! The magazine article I read quoted one of these Jesuit scientists when asked about this very thing, as saying that it would be a truly weak faith in an impotent God if He had to protected from fact, knowledge, and truth?

    José Funes, the director of the Vatican observatory even said (in regards to what would happen if alien life were discovered): “This does not conflict with our faith because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God.”

    This was very encouraging for me! After that, I felt much more confident opening my mind to learn from ANY source, without feeling like I would get to a point in my life where I'd learn "too much" and disprove God's existence. It was my joy to discover that it didn't work that way... And many years later, and many books read later, and a Master's degree later, I still marvel at how amazing God is to me!

    Anyway, this is getting rather off-topic.... I'd better quit while I'm ahead...
    It's interesting- this is the experience of so many people! To me, it was always the opposite. Guess I've been bass ackwards... I always wanted to learn as much about creation as I could, and the more I learn, the stronger my faith becomes! The sunset over the Gulf of Mexico is nothing short of the masterpiece of an inspired artist.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    I love it when small minds try to take on big ideas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chirs View Post
    I love it when small minds try to take on big ideas!
    Hey!! I resemble... er... resent that remark! What do you have against sunsets? Or maybe you don't like the Gulf of Mexico. Gulf hater.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    Small mind or not, if no one ever tried to tackle the big ideas, mankind would still be in the stone age! ith:

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