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			Hodden Gray kilt fabric...where?
		
			
				
					I saw on another forum a member who has scored a vintage, still basted London Scottish kilt from the 50's.  I get a jones for this style about once a year, and its once again reared its head again for this year.  I've never really looked for it, but I never see it marketed to the general public.  Since it is a distinct regimental color, I assume its woven special for London and Toronto Scottish regiments.  I guess I just answered my question, but does anyone know where to get this fabric?
				 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					
	Have you tried the Regiments themselves. They often have excess clothing and/or know where you might find one.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by NorCalPiper   I saw on another forum a member who has scored a vintage, still basted London Scottish kilt from the 50's.  I get a jones for this style about once a year, and its once again reared its head again for this year.  I've never really looked for it, but I never see it marketed to the general public.  Since it is a distinct regimental color, I assume its woven special for London and Toronto Scottish regiments.  I guess I just answered my question, but does anyone know where to get this fabric? 
 The modern cloth differs from the older, pre-1960s, cloth in that the recent weave has a much more purple hue compared with the original which was browner. I have a cWWI London Scottish kilt that I will post an image of when I get time.
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					Can anyone comment on the weave and yarn. Is it a tweed? is the cloth worsted woven twill or is it felted like coat wool, or?
				 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					 
 The pinkish/purple tones have come out a bit vivid in this pic. I don't really know what terminology to use to describe the Hodden Grey, it's a bit like an old fashioned blanket?
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					
	Worsted twill weave and yes, technically it's a tweed rather than a tartan as incidentally was the original Balmoral 'tartan'. The modern cloth is more felted than the older stuff, probably because they changed the wool type.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Hothir Ethelnor   Can anyone comment on the weave and yarn. Is it a tweed? is the cloth worsted woven twill or is it felted like coat wool, or? 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					I really want a hodden grey kilt sooooo badly.   That and a Tyneside Scottish (see this thread from Chris (Redshank) of Dunadd Trading Co.) 
 Never seen a hodden grey for sale anywhere and as Josh says the fabric is not generally available.
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					Hodden grey wool was historically a "common man's" fabric, woven of undyed dark and light yarns, and used for coarse garb such as soldiers' and sailors' coats, etc.
 The twill-weave kersey "mixed grey" here would work, and at 22 oz. would make a substantial kilt:
 
 http://www.wmboothdraper.com/store/i...roducts_id=695
 Brian 
 "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					I happen to have a friend/occasional drinking mate who is a Major in the Toronto Scottish and even he won't get the fabric for me.
				 
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
		
			
				
					
	I like that very much Woodsheal, but hodden grey has more of a pinkness...
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Woodsheal   ... The twill-weave kersey "mixed grey" here would work, and at 22 oz. would make a substantial kilt: 
 
 
	Hahahaha!  There's a word for people like him...  either that or he's not best mates with the QM.  Have a word with him and tell him there is a hefty market out there and it would be a subtle way of boosting their Regimental welfare fund.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Bing   I happen to have a friend/occasional drinking mate who is a Major in the Toronto Scottish and even he won't get the fabric for me. 
 In all seriousness, it does seem to be very closely guarded.  Probably to keep shallow idiots like me away from it.  Not a bad thing really and if I'm honest, I don't mind in the least.
   
	
	
	
		
		
		
				
				
					
				
		
			
				
					
	Not originally.  The hodden grey soldiers' coats of the 17th/18th centuries were decidedly grey, or a brownish-grey in some instances.  Latter day kilts acquired their "pinkness" from God knows where...
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by English Bloke   I like that very much Woodsheal, but hodden grey has more of a pinkness...   Brian 
 "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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