Kilt to prom on Glee tonight in prime time!

[Semiomniscient]

I know Glee has done Singing in the Rain. It would be interesting to see them do Brigadoon.

Now you're hitting on something!

[Salvianus]

A man in a Black Watch kilt plus leggings, no sporran. How effeminate is he?




A man in a Black Watch kilt plus leggings, no sporran. How effeminate is he?

Royal Highland Regiment (aka the 42nd Regiment) field dress for North America in the Seven Years War, 1760s, based on an illustration by Mike Chappell published in "18th Century Highlanders" by Stuart Reid, published by Osprey. You really would enjoy the book, please buy it.


Perhaps the TV show should have stuck with historically evidenced Highland dress to show the character's homage to Royalty:

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Bonnie Prince Charlie, "A likeness notwithstanding the Disguise" by Richard Cooper, the Elder

Fashion's a funny thing...

[biblemonkey]

The picture I saw had him in a prince charlie and it wasn't pleated all around just badly worn. Wouldn't it have been great if one of the STRAIGHT characters had worn it so they couldn't dismiss it as a skirt on a gay guy? I hate that show anyway.

[Semiomniscient]

Very interesting photos! But I don't think they really prove your point as the conventions of dress are completely different between the period art and modern dress. But it does prove that conventions do shift and something is not inherently one way or another in fashion. Nevertheless, we need to recognize how we and others perceive different fashions.

But anyway, I think some of the argument previously mentioned had to do with Kurt's character being effeminate and that it would reflect on the kilt, not just because he wore Highland attire in an unconventional way.

[kc8ufv]

Having finally caught up enough to watch the show last night, about the only negative I saw was that Kurt was chosen (by write-in campaign) as prom queen. It was interesting who he was paired up with, though.

[Tobus]

But anyway, I think some of the argument previously mentioned had to do with Kurt's character being effeminate and that it would reflect on the kilt, not just because he wore Highland attire in an unconventional way.

Exactly. While I would rather have seen the kilt portrayed in a more traditional manner, what bothered me about this is not that the kilt was worn in a more 'modern' fashion. It's that they took a very flamboyantly effeminate character who, by all reports, regularly dresses in womens' clothing, and put him in a man's garment that already suffers from misunderstanding amongst Americans.

So rather than showing the kilt as a decidedly masculine form of dress, their presentation of the kilt further marginalizes it as questionably feminine for all the viewers who don't know any better.

Even if their presentation of the kilt had been perfectly traditional and correct, it was the fact that they attached it to the character that they did which makes it less than a positive portrayal in my opinion. At the end of the day, we are likely to hear more "skirt" comments in our regular kilt-wearing lives because of this show, rather than less.

[Bugbear]

Having finally caught up enough to watch the show last night, about the only negative I saw was that Kurt was chosen (by write-in campaign) as prom queen. It was interesting who he was paired up with, though.

Just thinking back to when I was in high school, beginning of the nineties... things have changed a little.

I didn't go to prom, and really didn't have any desire to either.

[kc8ufv]

Just thinking back to when I was in high school, beginning of the nineties... things have changed a little.

I didn't go to prom, and really didn't have any desire to either.

I can see a little change from when I was in HS at the end of the 90s, and kids at my high school were pretty accepting then.

[Bugbear]

I can see a little change from when I was in HS at the end of the 90s, and kids at my high school were pretty accepting then.

Ya... there was some violence going on when I was in school in relation to this topic and the prooving of one's "manhood," late eighties, so that's a little in the back of my mind.

* Discussion taken back to PM.

[Nighthawk]

The picture I saw had him in a prince charlie and it wasn't pleated all around just badly worn. Wouldn't it have been great if one of the STRAIGHT characters had worn it so they couldn't dismiss it as a skirt on a gay guy? I hate that show anyway.

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that...

A man in a Black Watch kilt plus leggings, no sporran. How effeminate is he?




A man in a Black Watch kilt plus leggings, no sporran. How effeminate is he?

Royal Highland Regiment (aka the 42nd Regiment) field dress for North America in the Seven Years War, 1760s, based on an illustration by Mike Chappell published in "18th Century Highlanders" by Stuart Reid, published by Osprey. You really would enjoy the book, please buy it.

I can only assume you're joking when you imply that you don't see the difference between an openly gay, regularly cross-dressing kid wearing a kilt, and the obvious implications, and the soldier in field dress. Because if you're not, and are actually trying to make a point, then you failed miserably I think.

You do see the difference between this:



and this:



Sure the first one is techically a kilt... But that doesn't mean that the two are the same- or even close. Right?

Having finally caught up enough to watch the show last night, about the only negative I saw was that Kurt was chosen (by write-in campaign) as prom queen. It was interesting who he was paired up with, though.

Superb. More positive advertising for the man skirt.