Post Your Granted, Assumed or Desired Arms

[WVHighlander]

Wow this thread has really caught fire over the last few days. Its fantastic to see these arms. I am still working through getting my own Coat of Arms.

[Cygnus]

Something that just occurred to me; is the bordure around your arms a distinction indicative of cadency?

It is - on the first page I give my descent back to my most recent Scottish ancestor that bears the same surname as me.

Scottish ancestor
First son (no difference)
Fifth son (castellated chevron)
Second son (bordure Or)
First son (me) (label Gules)

[creagdhubh]

Very interesting thread, glad to see it in continuance!

Many thanks,

[werewolves]

WEREWOLVES: You really should show them a picture of your arms in tattoo form!

This one?


Or this one?



Or the other one that I don't have a picture of yet?

[WVHighlander]

Kevin,

That is some fantastic ink work...both of them. Fantastic.

[creagdhubh]

Speaking of ink, here is my tattoo (just have one) of the Clan Macpherson badge, depicting the crest of my Chief, Sir William Macpherson of Cluny and Blairgowrie. I've had since 2009, simple black and white design based off of Roderick Gordon Macpherson's (of Canada) spectacular heraldric artwork.



Slainte,

[FatherWilliam57]

Kevin: I meant the one on your leg. I didn't realize you had the arm done as well. Did you post that over at AHS? Can't imagine I'd forget that. Both of them are fantastic! (Dare I ask where the third is located?)

Caol: That is some marvelous work! In the picture, it almost looks like a person could reach out and unbuckle the belt! The shading gives it a grand 3-D effect. Does it really appear that way in real life?

Amazing work, both of you.

[werewolves]

Kevin,

That is some fantastic ink work...both of them. Fantastic.

Thank you!

[JSFMACLJR]

Do you happen to have a copy of the actual grant? Does it specifically withthold a crest from your father? Or is it merely saying (or assumed) that he is entitled to both and that it is the galero that is being withheld from his descendents (by implication)? Read the document carefully. This could simply be a misunderstanding between something that is "permissive" and something that is "proscribed." He should be entitled to both; you are only entitled to his crest (unless you also happen to be an Episcopal priest).

Thank you, MoR, for clearing the cobwebs out of my mind on this with your post above.

No need for the patronizing attitude, Mr. Henry: I'm quite knowledgeable about Scots heraldry.

Yes, I have the LP hanging in my living room. It reads:
"And further ( secundo ) we do hereby Grant Warrant to the Lyon Clerk to matriculate in Our said Public Register of All Arms and Bearings in Scotland in name of the Petitioner the following Ensigns Armorial as also depicted upon the right margin hereof, VIDELICET:- Quarterly, 1st, Argent, a rock Gules; 2nd, Or, a dexter hand fesswise couped Gules holding a cross crosslet fitchee in pale Azure; 3rd, Or, on a sea undy Azure and Argent a lymphad sails furled oars in saltire Sable flagged Gules; 4th, Argent, in chief two eagles' heads respectant erased Gules beaked and eyed Azure, in base a salmon naiant Proper, overall a cross raguly Sable charged at the centre with a maple leaf and in chief and in base with two fleurs de lys Or and in the flanks with two salmon naiant Argent, a bordure indented Vert. The Shield ensigned of an ecclesiastical hat corded and tasselled of one tassel on either side Sable, and in an Escrol under the same this Motto "Honestas Altera Merces"; and for his Lay heirs an Helm befitting their degree, with a Mantling Gules doubled Argent, and on a Wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest a beaver sejant erect holding in its dexter paw a Lochaber axe Proper, and in an Escrol over the same this Motto "SEEK HONOUR BY DOING GOOD."
It is clear from the LP that my father, the Petitioner, was not granted a crest. I may need to backtrack slightly, though...I said that Lord Lyon would not grant a crest to my father. Actually, my father in his Petition, did not pray for a crest, for the very reason that he was a Clerk in Holy Orders. If he had wanted one, I am sure Lord Lyon would have seen fit to grant one--but maybe not!

[JSFMACLJR]

That's very interesting, Sandy. I was under the impression that clergymen could be granted crests, but that they generally chose to display the corded and tasseled ecclesiastical hat instead.

That is good information to know!

You are correct, I believe. Lord Lyon does grant crests to clerics, but generally they prefer a hat, with a separate grant of a crest to the lay heirs.

In my communication with Lord Lyon Blair, he indicated that he preferred not to grant crests to priests, but would entertain the possibility if the petitioner really wanted one.