kilt trumps accessories?

[Father Bill]

Wile I do think a kilt wardrobe can be overdone I also think high quality understated accessories can add to the beauty of a kilt.

And the key here is "understated" Subtle is always better than ostentatious IMHO.

(And this from a guy who just took off his red and gold flamed Pentecost chasuble.)

[FatherWilliam57]

And the key here is "understated" Subtle is always better than ostentatious IMHO.

(And this from a guy who just took off his red and gold flamed Pentecost chasuble.)

What? No cope for the entrance and Gospel processions?

Good sense when wearing the kilt (or ecclesiastical vesture, for that matter) is important. (The strangest notion I have seen is when a pastor or priest, dressed in a clerical shirt and black pants, puts a cassock on over their clothing as though the cassock were a costume. The clerical shirt and pants are simply the 21st century derivative of the cassock. They are actually getting dressed twice, whether they realize it or not. The cassock, like the kilt, was originally everyday clothing and should be treated as such today. Hmm...what does one wear under a cassock?)

[saxandpipes]

I think it's not that the kilt trumps the accessories, but that an understated look of style trumps an overdone costume. Less is more, so to speak

Agree 100/cent! Style is an often overlooked thing, and often confused. Fashions come and go but good style is timeless.

[Highlander31]

....Fashions come and go but good style is timeless.

That pretty much covers it.

[Father Bill]

And yes, actually I do have a gold cope. I wore it for Easter. Only. The reason the cassock is generally worn over the other street clothinhg (and you are absolutely right in defining it that way) is so that we can have something comfortable to wear home after the service. Now, in the summer . . . .

[Dale Seago]

Yesterday I attended the wedding of two of the black belts in my dojo. It was held outdoors at the bride's parents' home on a northern California ranch. Dress was casual and the weather was very warm; most of the men were wearing slacks and open-neck short-sleeved shirts. So I made a point of trying to match that "level of attire", though I was the only one kilted.

There's a pic in this album. I also had along a black lambskin kilt jacket (not seen here), but didn't wear it until later at the (outdoor) dinner when it was getting cool.

[Mike_Oettle]

Bill Henry makes a valid point about the cassock being everyday clothing – and I would argue that properly speaking, it requires that no clothing be worn underneath.
While many clerics wear their cassocks in church, but not on the street, I recall a rule at our synods that clergy should wear cassocks during synod session – which ought to suggest that they should not wear trousers as well!
On the other hand, a chasuble is not the same as a cassock, and is rarely seen on the streets (except in processions).

Dale, your picture shows that you were very well dressed indeed, and must have put those trouser wearers to shame!
Regards,
Mike

[Father Bill]

While this is a KILT discussion board, the last comment I'll make on the cassock is that while you are historically correct, appropriate vestiture will depend on climate, custom, denominational practice, and the preferences of the supervising body - be that diocese, presbetery or council.

What I do is to wear it over trousers (or kilt, I suppose) and clerical shirt because that is the practice in my diocese. My cassock requires the shirt because the collar doesn't fit into the cassock, and it is customary in this area. That means that I'm doing what my colleagues do, and we are thereby somewhat uniform.

[FatherWilliam57]

And, like a kilt, it depends on if the cassock is actually wool or some other, lighter material. Also if it is half-lining, full-lining, or no lining at all. You could also "loose the shirt" by getting a cassock rabat from ALMY (think of it as a "dog collar dickey"). Other than that, I say nothing more about what is worn under my cassock...must preserve the mystique, eh?

We now return you to your previously scheduled thread...

[Father Bill]

And, like a kilt, it depends on if the cassock is actually wool or some other, lighter material. Also if it is half-lining, full-lining, or no lining at all. You could also "loose the shirt" by getting a cassock rabat from ALMY (think of it as a "dog collar dickey"). Other than that, I say nothing more about what is worn under my cassock...must preserve the mystique, eh?

We now return you to your previously scheduled thread...

Right on Bro!