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14th June 11, 06:43 AM
#22
 Originally Posted by WBHenry
What? No cope for the entrance and Gospel processions?
Good sense when wearing the kilt (or ecclesiastical vesture, for that matter) is important. (The strangest notion I have seen is when a pastor or priest, dressed in a clerical shirt and black pants, puts a cassock on over their clothing as though the cassock were a costume. The clerical shirt and pants are simply the 21st century derivative of the cassock. They are actually getting dressed twice, whether they realize it or not. The cassock, like the kilt, was originally everyday clothing and should be treated as such today. Hmm...what does one wear under a cassock?)
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
And yes, actually I do have a gold cope. I wore it for Easter. Only. The reason the cassock is generally worn over the other street clothinhg (and you are absolutely right in defining it that way) is so that we can have something comfortable to wear home after the service. Now, in the summer . . . .
 Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle
Bill Henry makes a valid point about the cassock being everyday clothing – and I would argue that properly speaking, it requires that no clothing be worn underneath.
While many clerics wear their cassocks in church, but not on the street, I recall a rule at our synods that clergy should wear cassocks during synod session – which ought to suggest that they should not wear trousers as well!
On the other hand, a chasuble is not the same as a cassock, and is rarely seen on the streets (except in processions).
Dale, your picture shows that you were very well dressed indeed, and must have put those trouser wearers to shame!
Regards,
Mike
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
While this is a KILT discussion board, the last comment I'll make on the cassock is that while you are historically correct, appropriate vestiture will depend on climate, custom, denominational practice, and the preferences of the supervising body - be that diocese, presbetery or council.
What I do is to wear it over trousers (or kilt, I suppose) and clerical shirt because that is the practice in my diocese. My cassock requires the shirt because the collar doesn't fit into the cassock, and it is customary in this area. That means that I'm doing what my colleagues do, and we are thereby somewhat uniform.
I would just point out that I am old enough to remember when the clergy and male religious in Italy (and perhaps elsewhere in Europe) were prohibited from wearing trousers under their cassock or habit.
On the other hand, a shirt was always normal attire under the cassock--though not for a religious habit. A neckband would be worn by most men in those centuries in order to prevent wear and tear on the shirt. This is where the "clerical" collar comes from! You can still see it in the different style of collars used by Catholic clergy throughout Europe.
So the modern clerical collar is a vestige of this traditional form of dress. In this, I assume that it probably is related to the ancient use of the leine over which the kilt would be worn.
P.S. A chasuble should never be worn on the street. Strictly speaking, it is worn exclusively for the eucharistic prayer. This is when the cope appears.
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