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                                                17th June 11, 08:36 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Word pronounciation!
		
			
				
					The word: targe. How is it actually pronounced? I used to pronounce it like "tarj." I was corrected by a friend who is a historian of Scots martial culture for whom I have a world of respect. He told me it's pronounced "tarGEE." But yesterday, I saw a show called Deadliest Warrior that featured a Scot (a Highlander with a rather thick brogue) who pronounced it the way I used to! So how is it actually pronounced- "tarj" or "tarGEE?" Or are they both correct?!?!   "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 08:41 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Not sure about pronounciation, but that Deadliest Warrior show was one of my favorites when it was on.
				 "When I wear my Kilt, God looks down with pride and the Devil looks up with envy." --UnknownProud Chief of Clan Bacon.  You know you want some!
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 08:47 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Aside from the completely rediculous Scots costuming, which being an historical reenactor, I had a hard time getting past. And I thought the costuming in Braveheart was bad! Sheesh!!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by azwildcat96   Not sure about pronounciation, but that Deadliest Warrior show was one of my favorites when it was on.   "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 09:04 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I'm certainly not an expert, but in my experience, (in both US and Scotland) your word is pronounced either as you have it: "tarj" or alternatively with a hard "g" = "targ" (like "burg"). I've also heard a variant of the latter where the "r" is burred or rolled in the best Scots style, with just a bit at the the end: "tarrrrrg-h". The last bit isn't a fully voiced syllable but just the ghost of one.
 I think your historian may be imparting a pseudo-French pronunciation where none is intended. Perhaps Ancienne Alliance can shed light on derivations if any exist.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 09:14 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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                                                17th June 11, 10:31 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Is that barj or barjay?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by figheadair   Targe as in barge. 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 10:42 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					m-w
 targe noun \ˈtärj\
 Definition of TARGE
 : a light shield used especially by the Scots
 Origin of TARGE
 Middle English, from Anglo-French
 First Known Use: 14th century
 Rhymes with TARGE
 barge, charge, large, marge, parge, sarge, sparge
 Daft Wullie, ye do hae the brains o’ a beetle, an’ I’ll fight any scunner who says different!
 
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 10:44 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	As in large
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by gpmeakin   Is that barj or barjay?   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 10:50 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					As a Scot I've only ever heard it pronounced as tarj...like sarj..
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th June 11, 10:56 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Dictionary.com says tahrj.
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