I soooooooooooooooooooo want one of these...

[Java]

and here is an actual military doublet properly tailored and worn. Note how high the waist is:

I don't mean to sound contrary, but how did we go from a copy of a 100 year old "actual (Canadian) military doublet" to bashing contemporary kilts? Should the Canadians celebrate their military history by re-writing it so that their doublets only ever had 6 buttons? I'm just confused is all........

Have Fun,
Tom

[madmacs]

If you mean the post above yours, i kinda just took it that the spam filter glitched...

As for the doublets, i think the question was raised about band type doublets getting longer when they are made in pakistan... I dont think anyone was bashing anyone though... Well apart from the sagging kilt/boxets issue, but that sounded like fair game to me...

[chrisupyonder]

http://thequeensowncameronhighlander...th%201930.html

The reproduction looks too long to me but they say made to meaure so you could end up with the correct fit.

Chris.

[OC Richard]

I don't mean to sound contrary, but how did we go from a copy of a 100 year old "actual (Canadian) military doublet" to bashing contemporary kilts? Should the Canadians celebrate their military history by re-writing it so that their doublets only ever had 6 buttons? I'm just confused is all........

Have Fun,
Tom

To be accurate, note that I never said a thing about the number of buttons; that was from someone else's post. Neither did I say anything about contemporary kilts, a topic which has nothing to do with the topic of military doublets.

What I did say was that oftentimes people nowadays like to wear their kilts lower that was done in the old days, than is still done in the Army, and that Indian and other "overseas" doublet makers have catered to that by making imitation military doublets with lower waists than one would ever see in Scottish-made military style doublets.

So they say that that doublet is a reproduction of an antique one? I'll wager the old genuine one has the standard military high waist.

[Java]

Richard, I was just sort of replying to the thread in general. My appologies if it sounded as if I had singled you out. According to the link, this doublet is a copy of a "100 year old museum piece" which is pictured in the lower right hand corner of the page. Wouldn't it be funny to discover that they've made them all wrong because the one they copied happened to belong to a very tall thin soldier!

Have Fun,
Tom

[OC Richard]

To make what I was talking about perfectly clear, here is the back of the Glengarry Hats doublet:



and the rear of a genuine Canadian military doublet, from the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders of Canada:



and the flaps of a doublet from the Royal Highland Regiment of Canada:



Though the Glengarry Hats doublet has nicely shaped flaps it nevertheless has some typical earmarks of "imported" doublets, namely the rear centre flaps being far too large, the waist too low, and in this instance the colour being red rather than scarlet.

Here are more views of two genuine Canadian doublets:

[Java]

Richard; I appreciate the lesson, as I know virtually nothing about doublets. That is the kind of thing it is hard to say on the internet, because in print it looks sarcastic. I mean it sincerely. This is the "genuine" doublet they say they copied, which caused me to enter the conversation;

http://www.glengarryhats.com/images/...t_original.jpg

I have no idea what the actual origins of this one are, just that they claimed it was an original "79th" doublet.

By the way, I lived in Orange County from '67 until '96. Whereabouts are you?

Have Fun,
Tom

[madmacs]

Richard; I appreciate the lesson, as I know virtually nothing about doublets. That is the kind of thing it is hard to say on the internet, because in print it looks sarcastic. I mean it sincerely. This is the "genuine" doublet they say they copied, which caused me to enter the conversation;

http://www.glengarryhats.com/images/...t_original.jpg

I have no idea what the actual origins of this one are, just that they claimed it was an original "79th" doublet.

By the way, I lived in Orange County from '67 until '96. Whereabouts are you?

Have Fun,
Tom

Looking at the back of the one copied, plus the a&s one, you can get an idea of where the.elbow was bay the bend in the fabric... That gives you a good frame of reference for length being to about the navel... I dont think it would be unfair for a company to call something a faithful copy of a jacket if they produced it in different sizes, and as im sure many if us know L/M/S fittings make a huge difference...

Long or short, it looks a nice jacket in my opinion, and since a military career was something i considered a looooooooooong time ago and disregarded, Im not too sure that it'll preaent a problem either way

[triolamj]

The "genuine" doublets don't look like any shade of scarlet I've seen a military or RCMP unit wear on the TV news or motion pictures over the last 30 years. In fact, GlengarryHats' doublets look the perfect color. The "genuine" ones look faded and I mean really faded. Just compare it in your mind to the tunic Prince William wore at his wedding. Regardless of who makes it, it should come right down to the top of the kilt or belt wherever the wearer chooses. Also, the average US male is 4 inches taller since WWII.

To continue the thread: I s-o-o-o-o want a Don McKee pewter Celtic Knot belt buckle. Please, somebody talk me out of it, or let me know where I can find a buckle that's smaller and less expensive, but just about as fine.


http://www.kilts-n-stuff.com/images/...ee_knot_lg.gif

[Cygnus]

...I s-o-o-o-o want a Don McKee pewter Celtic Knot belt buckle. Please, somebody talk me out of it, or let me know where I can find a buckle that's smaller and less expensive, but just about as fine.

I can't say I looked for something similar but less expensive, but I hope that this belt buckle will help you justify spending $65 on one.

As for the doublets, it would appear that the "original doublet" posted above was actually somewhere near the appropriate measurements. The rear flaps seem more narrow and the body seems quite a bit shorter than in the pictures of the "replica".

I would agree that the "replicas" have been modified to fit the more "relaxed" styles and standards of dress of today.