caps

[pei Mac Donald]

im not shure if this fits here but.... diced caps are usaly for protestants and plain for roman catholics is this still followed and do you follow this tradition this is wear i got it last paragraph http://www.scotweb.co.uk/products/diced-balmoral-hat/

[Jock Scot]

If you are talking about Scotland and with the greatest of respect, who told you that? I rather feel that you have been miss-informed, or to put it another way------- it is absolute rubbish! Sorry.

I cannot speak for the rest of the world though.

[KenB]

Ditto! I'm curious as to how these "myths" actually get started.

[Jock Scot]

Alright I am sorry, your question was an honest one and I should give your question more attention.

Far be it from me to disagree with your information, but frankly, I do.Now there certainly is a myth that is floated from time to time that "diced" means government and un-diced means Jacobite(anti goverment) leanings. It is also true that the Stewarts were on the whole RC and the Hanoverians were on the whole Protestants, but the whole sorry squabble is not as simple as one branch of a religion pitted against another and to suggest that it did, misunderstands the situation.As far as I am aware there is no documentary evidence that actually proves this "religious divide" signaled with diced or un-diced bonnets.Most certainly for the last 70 years or so, this is regarded as a myth by the locals and has never ever been substantiated by any evidence.

It is also true that Highland Regiments(not sure if all of them did at that the time of their formation) had diced head wear and certainly the Black Watch had/has red attachments to their bonnets and most certainly they were a Government unit right from the outset.

So I would honestly advise that you put the whole diced thing into the myth bracket.

[pei Mac Donald]

thanks alot

[chrisupyonder]

Thanks Jock, you are a mine of information.
Another question for you. Is there anything in the way the ribbon tails are worn, loose or tied in a bow? Is it anything to do with highlanders/Lowelanders as some local expert? tried to tell me.

Chris.

[Cowher]

Thanks Jock, you are a mine of information.
Another question for you. Is there anything in the way the ribbon tails are worn, loose or tied in a bow? Is it anything to do with highlanders/Lowelanders as some local expert? tried to tell me.

Chris.

I have been told it relates to your relationship status.
Loose = single
Tied = married

But that sounds like another myth to me

[Jock Scot]

Thanks Jock, you are a mine of information.
Another question for you. Is there anything in the way the ribbon tails are worn, loose or tied in a bow? Is it anything to do with highlanders/Lowelanders as some local expert? tried to tell me.

Chris.

Well this one has a certain amount of foundation. Whilst I did not serve in a Scottish Regiment, so I stand to be corrected here, but Lowland regiments left their ribbons untied and the Highlanders had their ribbons tied. I think the civilians wear theirs following on from this. From a practical point of view, getting whacked in the eye with a damp ribbon blowing in the wind is distinctly unpleasant, so tying them in a bow, or just cutting the damn things off, solves the problem!

Yes the married/unmarried ribbon thing is a myth too, although I know of one or two small localities in the Western Highlands where they will, rather tongue in cheek, expound this theory.

[Jock Scot]

Dual post,sorry, now deleted.

[mookien]

Yes the married/unmarried ribbon thing is a myth too, although I know of one or two small localities in the Western Highlands where they will, rather tongue in cheek, expound this theory.

Perhaps we're watching the early stages of a myth evolving into tradition.