Fitness Challenge!

[Joshua]

I will interject here that a lot of fad diet info is easily available, complete with faux science to boost book sales. Proceed with caution. Short term weight gain is possible, certainly, but long-term over-consumption of animal protein and suppression of complex carbohydrates is a virtual recipe for cancer. Plus, your brain cannot operate w/o fuel, and that's built from the carbs.

Your commentary about cancer could not be any farther from the truth. I will leave it at that, as I do not want to water down Biblemonkey's thread nor do I want to get involved in an Internet argument, but let's just say I've extensively researched this particular diet, and trust it enough to feed my only son and wife.

If you would like more information, please feel free to send me a PM. But please, please, don't make statements like those above without some kind of legitimate research behind it.

[biblemonkey]

I will interject here that a lot of fad diet info is easily available, complete with faux science to boost book sales. Proceed with caution. Short term weight gain is possible, certainly, but long-term over-consumption of animal protein and suppression of complex carbohydrates is a virtual recipe for cancer. Plus, your brain cannot operate w/o fuel, and that's built from the carbs.

I will grant you that it's theoretically possible to transmute anything into what you need, but it's a lot of work and few are equipped with the necessary info and focus. Easier to eat properly. It's actually easier to live w/o food than to transmute everything.

I don't know where this even came in at. This thread is about fitness goals. Excercise and good nutrition is the order of the day. No one mentioned fad dieting.

by the by Reverend Graham and Joshua-Good job! Keep it up!

[Kilted Rogue]

right now I am at 43% body fat with a total weight of 210 lbs for a 5'6 body frame. I'm starting to get a little worried about it cuz my recruiter told me that the latest I can join before I lost my GA Military Scholarship is late August. Even though I have been doing some P90X (i only have the dvd workouts, not the whole package), it has been really slow going, and I can't afford to lose this scholarship.

Sorry i am late in chiming in on this thread but here goes.
for anyone looking to watch there diet as well as use programs like P90X and insanity, check out this site Spark People add your info(Height weight and goals) and it will give you a break down of how much fat, carbs, and protein to eat on a daily basis. THere Database of food is HUGE!!! it its a bit tedious,, but i went from 206 210 lbs to 186 lbs inabout 3 months. i didnt work out but once or twice.

Also take a look at this page as wellBody Rock Her interval training ( much like P90X but Free) will blow you away!

[biblemonkey]

Sorry i am late in chiming in on this thread but here goes.
for anyone looking to watch there diet as well as use programs like P90X and insanity, check out this site Spark People add your info(Height weight and goals) and it will give you a break down of how much fat, carbs, and protein to eat on a daily basis. THere Database of food is HUGE!!! it its a bit tedious,, but i went from 206 210 lbs to 186 lbs inabout 3 months. i didnt work out but once or twice.

Also take a look at this page as wellBody Rock Her interval training ( much like P90X but Free) will blow you away!

Thanks for the extra! P-90X and Insanity do have nutrition programs built into them, though. Thanks for looking out for us, though.

[tripleblessed]

My apologies to all offended. Few if any will ever match what I have lifted, and I'm just short of 6 feet and under 200 pounds. I've been working with nutrition and health science longer than most on this thread have been alive, and my only interest is informational for your health and longevity. In this life, ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances. Be well, live long, have fun. I'll not bother you on this thread again.

Joshua, thanks for the offer. Saw this information years ago, and through the years. Broader reading is a good habit.

Again, I regret any hurt feelings.

[tpa]

Great thread, good idea, obviously a popular theme. I have been regulated by my kilt size since my teens. Now do about 25 mins a day on my mountain bike up and down about 500 ft. off road. Need some incentive to work on my upper body. Since I stopped selling crates of beer for a living, have been neglecting that, so hopefully this thread will be a good enough incentive to get me started on that on a regular basis.

[Joshua]

My apologies to all offended. Few if any will ever match what I have lifted, and I'm just short of 6 feet and under 200 pounds. I've been working with nutrition and health science longer than most on this thread have been alive, and my only interest is informational for your health and longevity. In this life, ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances. Be well, live long, have fun. I'll not bother you on this thread again.

Joshua, thanks for the offer. Saw this information years ago, and through the years. Broader reading is a good habit.

Again, I regret any hurt feelings.

No hurt feelings... I just reversed basically every autoimmune disorder I had ever had (pre-diabetic, fatty liver disease, chrons disease, and am curing obesity) by eating this way... therefore I staunchly defend it, as anyone would who honestly considers their life saved by something...

What kind of lifting did you do? My background is strongman, Olympic style weightlifting, and the Games, of course.

[tripleblessed]

Since you asked, I'll intrude again. First, kudos to all on this thread for taking on the challenge.

Joshua, to you, congratulations for taking personal responsibility for recovery, and making the improvements you have. The area of autoimmune illness is very complex, and often counter-intuitive. The main requirement is personal involvement.

I have never done the kinds of lifting you have, and have never reached the strength levels as the guys you have hung out with. However, I spent a lot of years doing heavy work, including feeding billets into the furnace on a rolling mill in a steel mill. I wasn't there long, but I broke production records at every size billet. Small were 28 feet long and 215 pounds, largest 32 feet and 500 pounds. Cut the wire holding bundle together, pull across the work table 1 or 2 onto the rollers on the side of the table, and shove toward the furnace. If any fell on the floor, they had to be lifted by hand. The crane operator didn't like my hair, so to mess with me he'd hit the back of the pile hard enough to knock 8-20 onto the floor. At the 215 pound size, I moved 231 in an hour, 201 was the prior record, with two guys working together (I worked solo). Any time I was above 180 an hour, I was lifting one to two tons off the floor, and 231 is right at 50,00 pounds moved by hand. At the 500 pound size, prior best was about 90, with 2 guys. I did 117, and above 80 would typically have 8-12 to lift off the floor (2-3 tons), so best was 58,500 pounds by hand, not machine. As I said, not the strongest guy around, but at 185, not too shabby. And in a mill that spanned about 80 years, I was the only idiot stupid enough to lift the 500 pounders by hand solo.

[tripleblessed]

This was all a long time ago, and only in the last couple of years did the math totals come up, and having posted them, it later occurs to me that's only by the hour. My working partner (weighed about 265) and I chose to work solo, an hour on and an hour off during our shift, so 4 working hours, 4 playing cards. With 4 hours working, deadlifted 4-10 tons a day. On occasion, double shifts.

[cryerelizabeth]

wow... thats some heavy lifting