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28th November 08, 07:59 AM
#111
You guys look great. I don't see how any one would have a neg. comment about your attire.
The only remark you might have gotten is "Where are your Pipes?"
MrBill
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28th November 08, 07:59 AM
#112
I thought I would share part of the email my Mother sent to me this morning in really chaped my ****. The following is from my Mom:
"I was very disappointed and hurt that you chose today to ignore my request that you wear slacks to the dinner. I believe that it showed a lack of respect and caring for me. I had given Zachary and Raegan my word that you would be considerate of our feelings and not wear a kilt. Obviously, I was wrong. Aaron, I do not know how to relate to you. Your life seems, to me, to be a kind of theater. You dress up to wrestle and therefore become someone else's persona and I believe you do the same with the wearing of kilts. I do not mind that you on occasion wear a kilt, but this everyday thing is just plain too much for me to deal with any longer. I believe you own it to your workplace to dress in pants and shorts, even if it is a 'speciality store of sorts. I trust that you will have a much different job in the near future. One that will support your family, and I don't believe that wearing a kilt will be acceptable for that. I wonder what are you trying to escape from, that you choose to do this. It does not affect just you, as I have told you before, it brings unwanted attention to those of us who are with you. I love you very much Aaron, you ask that we respect you and yet even for one day you chose not to respect how I felt."
Just wanted you all to see this as it shows what I live with everyday, except form my wonderfull wife, son, and close friends who never have a harsh word about kilts. I am very well aware that when I go back to working in EMS or Law Enforcement that the kilt will stay at home when on duty, and I do plan on returning to one of those very soon. I just hope that someday my family can look past of what I have on and see that I am still me. Thank you all for the great comments. Best to you all.
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28th November 08, 08:09 AM
#113
Oh yeah, think that ones bad? My mom adds extra stuff to hers to make it sound worse..
(By the way, she spelled her grandchild's name wrong to boot)
 Originally Posted by celtic cowboy
I thought I would share part of the email my Mother sent to me this morning in really chaped my ****. The following is from my Mom:
Just wanted you all to see this as it shows what I live with everyday, except form my wonderfull wife, son, and close friends who never have a harsh word about kilts. I am very well aware that when I go back to working in EMS or Law Enforcement that the kilt will stay at home when on duty, and I do plan on returning to one of those very soon. I just hope that someday my family can look past of what I have on and see that I am still me. Thank you all for the great comments. Best to you all.
Hi I am pouring my soul out to you please stop and think about what you are doing to your reputation the children's and mine . Yesterday we were so busy the mall was packed and a man in line said to another if my son wore a dress in the mall i would cut his ----off and let him be a girl . my heart sank oh god please dint let it be nick please . no i didn't have the heart to comment to find out if it was you but about an hr later the landlord went by and said hay i saw your son in his dress down the mall . I went in the back and cry ed you are in a small town their not educated they see a man wearing a dress not a knelt and you are not Irish or Scottish and your not in a group that were it for heritage its only you . your children have to grow up here were that stuff in day to nor cine not were it could hurt you family .
The lady at Nirvana was talking about it today i cant get away from people asking me if your all their . I not sure i am worried for your future . we have hate crimes all the time i would hate to see some one cut yours off.
she also not being mean but stated you slap mark to hard and she is embraced by it when you hit mark you need to stop being so mean other people see and react you dint know who is looking and what their job is we have children service people in training at the ma all conference room i know you think you are right but honey if it was someone else child i would laugh but its mine and the laughing is about us . She said she loves to have mark and you stop in but can only take so much and said to you its time for you to leave how embracing it breaks my heart . I know you can do more with your life and find a way to help your family financially and with pride not oh the kid mark or Enos he is the one who's dad wears the dress and does work and dint pay their bills and never has the house clean and the kids clothes dint match or the baby smells because nicks to lazy to change his clothes i am over whelmed by the comments that are made and people asking me
cant you talk any sense into him . you need to help you self . a little along the way I know you dint think people are saying thing s but they do . just like sat i new you were in the mall but never seen you people have nothing better to do then talk and if they can cause miser for some one else the get a high out of it so please stop helping pepole find a way to be mean to us .
I love you but you have some issues you need to resolve like getting a job not being so hateful and not wearing a dress maybe its time you use Ruthie's insurance and seek help . I dint know how to help you but for a better quality life please concerned getting help .
love mom
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28th November 08, 08:58 AM
#114
 Originally Posted by sathor
Oh yeah, think that ones bad? My mom adds extra stuff to hers to make it sound worse..
(By the way, she spelled her grandchild's name wrong to boot)
Hi I am pouring my soul out to you please stop and think about what you are doing to your reputation the children's and mine . Yesterday we were so busy the mall was packed and a man in line said to another if my son wore a dress in the mall i would cut his ----off and let him be a girl . my heart sank oh god please dint let it be nick please . no i didn't have the heart to comment to find out if it was you but about an hr later the landlord went by and said hay i saw your son in his dress down the mall . I went in the back and cry ed you are in a small town their not educated they see a man wearing a dress not a knelt and you are not Irish or Scottish and your not in a group that were it for heritage its only you . your children have to grow up here were that stuff in day to nor cine not were it could hurt you family .
The lady at Nirvana was talking about it today i cant get away from people asking me if your all their . I not sure i am worried for your future . we have hate crimes all the time i would hate to see some one cut yours off.
she also not being mean but stated you slap mark to hard and she is embraced by it when you hit mark you need to stop being so mean other people see and react you dint know who is looking and what their job is we have children service people in training at the ma all conference room i know you think you are right but honey if it was someone else child i would laugh but its mine and the laughing is about us . She said she loves to have mark and you stop in but can only take so much and said to you its time for you to leave how embracing it breaks my heart . I know you can do more with your life and find a way to help your family financially and with pride not oh the kid mark or Enos he is the one who's dad wears the dress and does work and dint pay their bills and never has the house clean and the kids clothes dint match or the baby smells because nicks to lazy to change his clothes i am over whelmed by the comments that are made and people asking me
cant you talk any sense into him . you need to help you self . a little along the way I know you dint think people are saying thing s but they do . just like sat i new you were in the mall but never seen you people have nothing better to do then talk and if they can cause miser for some one else the get a high out of it so please stop helping pepole find a way to be mean to us .
I love you but you have some issues you need to resolve like getting a job not being so hateful and not wearing a dress maybe its time you use Ruthie's insurance and seek help . I dint know how to help you but for a better quality life please concerned getting help .
love mom
A very perplexing message, I must say. On one hand, she seems to equate wearing a particular outfit with mental illness. Checking in the American Psychicatric Associations guides to mental illness, wearing of a Kilt was noticeably absent from the index. On the other she seems overly concerned with appearances, which IS in the American Psychiatric Associations guides to mental illness, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Histrionic Personality Disorder or the severe Borderline Personality Disorder.
The phrase I would use here is "back away very slowly."
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28th November 08, 09:13 AM
#115
1. you didn't ignore the request, you considered the request with the gravity it deserved, but found that it was in your best interests not to accede to it. A request that can not be denied is an order. Did she order you? Can she order you?
2. while your mother gave her word, she did so without your consent or any discussion with you. She also gave her word on something she has no control over.
3. her actual REAL issue is the fact you don't work at the moment, the kilt just helps her latch onto something.
Good luck to both you and sathor.
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28th November 08, 09:29 AM
#116
I do currently work, just not in the job that I was in prior to moving to FL. Before moving here I work as a full time Paramedic and a part time Police Officer. I was told many times that these were no where jobs, and I would never be able to take care of my family doing them. I was working 72hrs a week as a Medic and at least 16hrs a week as a Police Officer. I moved to FL because I was under the thought I could do the jobs I loved and make a better life for my family. However I am still trying, but I have been working since we moved here, mostly for Spencer Gifts as a Sales Supervisor where I make the same as I did as a Paramedic in IL but with more benifits. I am trying to get back into EMS or as a Police Officer, however I am sure some of you are aware they do not pass out these jobs like candy. My wife (Scottish Mommy) works at Target and has also been trying to get on the Ambulance Service as she is an EMT, she also has tried to get another part time job just as I, but we all know how great the job market is. I just wish that some day some of my family would step back and judge themselves before they judge others. To them everyone I choose to be friends with are "weird" , "Strange", or my favorite "one of those people", still not sure what the blue h*** that one means. Hope you all had a great turkey day, other than the BS with the family the meal was good, I did get looked at strange because I had sushi with my turkey, hey they picked the buffet not me.
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28th November 08, 10:27 AM
#117
 Originally Posted by celtic cowboy
I do currently work, just not in the job that I was in prior to moving to FL. Before moving here I work as a full time Paramedic and a part time Police Officer. I was told many times that these were no where jobs, and I would never be able to take care of my family doing them. I was working 72hrs a week as a Medic and at least 16hrs a week as a Police Officer. I moved to FL because I was under the thought I could do the jobs I loved and make a better life for my family. However I am still trying, but I have been working since we moved here, mostly for Spencer Gifts as a Sales Supervisor where I make the same as I did as a Paramedic in IL but with more benifits. I am trying to get back into EMS or as a Police Officer, however I am sure some of you are aware they do not pass out these jobs like candy. My wife (Scottish Mommy) works at Target and has also been trying to get on the Ambulance Service as she is an EMT, she also has tried to get another part time job just as I, but we all know how great the job market is. I just wish that some day some of my family would step back and judge themselves before they judge others. To them everyone I choose to be friends with are "weird" , "Strange", or my favorite "one of those people", still not sure what the blue h*** that one means. Hope you all had a great turkey day, other than the BS with the family the meal was good, I did get looked at strange because I had sushi with my turkey, hey they picked the buffet not me.
...wait... The family get's down on you for working as a police officer? Are they serious?!?! If it weren't for you, my children would be dead 10 years ago. Words can't express the disgust I now have for your "family." I'm sorry to sound harsh, but you are a hero, weather you just handed out traffic tickets or worked on a SWAT team. You put your life on the line for a pregnant woman and a little girl that you didn't know, nor would ever see again, and just because it was your job. My 12 year old daughter and my 10 year old son and I thank you from the bottoms of our hearts. How sickening that someone would actually get down on you for doing those kinds of things... and how sad that the pay and benefits are better working for Spencer's.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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28th November 08, 10:47 AM
#118
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
and how sad that the pay and benefits are better working for Spencer's.
I was just thinking the same thing! That is insane! These guys put their lives on the line, day after day, and they don't make more than retail wage?!?!? Ok, something is really wrong in this world!
Then again, I work in a technically demanding field and make retail wages...
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28th November 08, 11:04 AM
#119
CelticCowboy you are so fortunate having a loving wife and son and the three of you look so happy and so smartly dressed in the photo you posted. Your mother ought to be really proud that you have in the past put your life on the line working in law enforcement and that currently you are doing something which allows you more time to devote to your lovely family and to give that family better security. Thats far more precious than living in a big house.
Sathor I can't really comprehend what your mother is getting at. Reading her e-mail she comes over to me as confused but then I've never met the lady so it would be unkind for me to form such a judgement.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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28th November 08, 11:06 AM
#120
It does make me sad, I tried to tell my family it is not about the pay. But they never could understand. I made $7 an hr working as a Police officer and $9 and hr as a paramedic, but I think if I made a million $'s they would still find a problem with it. That is just the way they are. No matter the roads I chose to travel in life they will allways think I should go their way not my own. I chose to take a year away from public service when we moved here due to the fact I was getting a little burned out, 14yrs in EMS does that to you. One of my last calls before moving was the loss of a baby, I have delt with this many times before but this time it hit me hard. I saw myself getting to be cold with people, and I was not sure if it was right for me anymore. A couple of weeks ago I was out to lunch with my Mother and son when a elderly woman behind us began to have some serious medical issues, I did not think twice about helping her and explaing to her husband what was going on and that we needed to call an ambulace for her. I felt better than I have in some time, so this was my sign, it's time to get back to giving to people what I love, help. I know this now, that helping people is what I was ment to do. If my family never uderstands, so be it. I have seen alot of bad things happen to good people, and been the one they called to help them, sometimes I could, and somtimes I had to give them bad news, but I can always say good or bad at least I was there to try. Well enough of this , I hope to be back in the seat soon. Thanks for the ear, any of you ever need to vent I am here.
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