De-Anglicisation of Names

**BEEDEE** · 24th August 07, 08:17 AM

Slohairt - how about DODDS - border rievers on the English side (Tynedale) and then the Ulster Plantations.

Brian

**Mr. Kilt** · 24th August 07, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by slohairt

GINGLES: Yargh! That is a tricky one. Especially if it comes from Antrim, as that was prime turf for the Plantation. In which case it could be almost anything. If you're looking for a Gaelic origin possibility, it could be from Mac an Ghoill "son of the foreigner." Just an idea.

Thank you, Slohairt! That may be one more piece to the large puzzle of my name.

**slohairt** · 24th August 07, 08:39 AM

Dia Dhuit, A Fhleisd75!

WILT: Since there is no letter "W" indigenous to Gaelic, a Gaelic transliteration could Uilt (pronounced the same). Or Mac Uilt, if you prefer a patronymic.

FLETCHER: Mac an Fhleisdeir (SCOTTISH GAELIC) roughly pronounced MAC AN LESH-TER; Mac an Fhleastair (IRISH) roughly pronounced MAC AN LEST-ER. Both mean "son of the fletcher."

MACGLATHERY/MACGLADDERY: From the Irish "Mac Gleadhra" meaning "son of Gleadhra" (quarrelsome?) Pronounced MAC GLAY-RA.

O'LEARY: From Ó Laoghaire (Modern Irish: Ó Laoire) meaning "descended from Laoghaire." Pronounced O LEER-EE. Laoghaire was a personal name meaning "keeper of calves." Cows were an important commodity in ancient Ireland and were used as currency. The traditional seat of the Uí Laoire was in Rosscarbery (Ros Cairbre) in Co. Cork.

**Captain** · 24th August 07, 08:40 AM

How 'bout Dooley? I didn't read through all the pages of this topic, so sorry if I missed it somewhere...

**slohairt** · 24th August 07, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by highlander_Daz

a branch of my family is called "green" which is traditionally an English name however they are all Pikeys, my uncle claims is from the word "Grain" which means "the sun" or a mispelling of "Greer" by a short sighted priest from "Mc Gregor"

any thoughts??

Dia Dhuit, Highlander _Daz,

There may be a grain of truth to that story. (Sorry, bad joke

) "Grian" is, in fact, the Gaelic word for "sun." The genitive case is "Grèine" pronounced GRAIN-yA. How it could have been used as a surname, I'm not sure. Mac an Ghrèine ("son of the sun") seems an unlikely patronymic.

Sometimes the word was used in reference to Summer. Grianan of Aileach (in my home county of Donegal) means "Summer Home of Aileach." So, "son of summer" could be a possibility. I believe there is a Norse name Summerled which means just that.

Greer is, indeed, from Mac Grioghair. The "gh" was silent to some dialects.

**slohairt** · 24th August 07, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by billmcc

I am interested in what you have to say about my surname, McCaughtry.

Dia Dhuit, billmcc

MCCAUGHTRY: I would say this is from the Irish Mac Eachmharcaigh (pronounced MAC AKH-WAR-KEE). Wow, that's a mouthful! It means "son of the horseman."

**slohairt** · 24th August 07, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by BEEDEE

Slohairt - how about DODDS - border rievers on the English side (Tynedale) and then the Ulster Plantations.

Brian

Dia Dhuit, BEEDEE,

Dodds, is topographical in origin, supposedly from Doddis (?) in Berwick.

**McFarkus** · 24th August 07, 09:10 AM

Turpin,

Seeing you having fun with the family tree helps validate all the time I've frittered away on it.

Mark

**slohairt** · 24th August 07, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Captain

How 'bout Dooley? I didn't read through all the pages of this topic, so sorry if I missed it somewhere...

Dia Dhuit, A Chaptaein!

DOOLEY: From the Irish Ó Dubhlaoich (pronounced O DOO-LEE) meaning "descended from Dubhlaoch" a personal name meaning "dark warrior."