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23rd December 11, 07:16 AM
#121
Re: The Rules of the Gentleman
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
I knew an old security man in his 80s (!) who had disassembled all his clothes and then basted them back together lightly. You could grab him anywhere you wanted, but you didn't have him! Clip ons only for him!
Tough ol' bugger!
Reminiscent of the old 1980's-90's "tearaway" jerseys of the NFL (american football) worn by the running backs so that just grabbing their jersey would not give the defender a strong enough hold to bring down the runner, instead just tearing off a piece of the jersey leaving the runner still going. I vividly remember watching one game where Archie Manning went through 15 or more jerseys in one game playing for the Cincinnati Bengals. Eventually outlawed in football and instead replaced with extremely tight form fitting elastic jerseys.
But an excellent idea for anyone who does not wish to have their clothing used against them in an altercation. Brilliant!
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31st December 11, 12:57 PM
#122
One addition to my "Rules of the Gentleman"
In light of the "Alternative to Gentleman" thread I would like to offer an addition to my personal "rules"
Here is my original set
 Originally Posted by Panache
A Gentleman...
Knows that Honor is a two edged sword and the sharper edge is always the one facing him
Deals in hard knocks and careful courtesy, nothing in between
Knows that poise is in the art of raising the eyebrow and not the roof
Knows all the rules of polite society and knows when they should be followed religiously and when they need to be set aside out of neccessity.
Treats all with respect and expects to be treated with respect by all
Can ride, dance, sing, fence, and shoot
Knows how to enjoy a fine vintage wine in august company as well as lemonade from a child's sidewalk stand
Knows how to dress well and knows that clothes can reflect the man, but most importantly knows that they certainly do not make the man
Is polite and well spoken
Knows how to trust and is trustworthy
Offers insult very rarely and never accidentally
Is kind to animals and careful with machinery
Is quick to sincerely apologize when at fault
Is the one who will always stand for their turn at the wheel, and more if needed
When the subject of Service comes up they think first of their obligations to serve instead of other's obligations to serve them
Keeps calm and always can be counted to carry on
To which I would add "A Gentleman...
always keeps a healthy sense of humor and perspective
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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31st December 11, 01:08 PM
#123
Re: One addition to my "Rules of the Gentleman"
 Originally Posted by Panache
...
To which I would add "A Gentleman...
always keeps a healthy sense of humor and perspective
Cheers
Jamie
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31st December 11, 01:09 PM
#124
Re: One addition to my "Rules of the Gentleman"
 Originally Posted by Panache
In light of the "Alternative to Gentleman" thread I would like to offer an addition to my personal "rules"
Here is my original set
To which I would add "A Gentleman...
always keeps a healthy sense of humor and perspective
Cheers
Jamie
I'll raise a gin and tonic to that.
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31st December 11, 08:53 PM
#125
Re: One addition to my "Rules of the Gentleman"
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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31st December 11, 09:04 PM
#126
Re: One addition to my "Rules of the Gentleman"
You know, I don't mind a little heartburn now and then, and I think that a good, solid, loud disagreement where people get to see, crystal clearly, that there is more than one perspective on an issue is a Good Thing.
I am GLAD that you made your original post. In fact, I'm VERY glad. I think it has been good for XMarks. I also think that it's time to move on, eh? Truth is, the focal point of the forum is kilts, and that is something we all share. I'll be taking a bit of Steves advice, and now that I've had my say, will be refocusing on the thing that we all have in common.
Kilts.
I'm also glad that Panache, who could be mighty tee'd off about the whole thing, is being himself, and keeping his sense of humour intact. Believe it or not, mine is functioning as well! Yeah, yeah, I know....Ha! but I still am not drinking Gin and Tonic. So I'll toast you and Panache with three fingers of Aberlour 14 year.
Carry on!
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31st December 11, 09:12 PM
#127
Re: One addition to my "Rules of the Gentleman"
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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31st December 11, 10:32 PM
#128
Re: The Rules of the Gentleman
Happy New Year!
My mother's maden name is Murphy. I certainly have lived by many of those rules. And trust me many of them apply to the business world. The military is just more honest about shoving the blade in.
The thing that worries me is some 35 years ago Senior Drill Instructor Gy Sgt Phillips made it PAINFULLY obviously to me that 'Gentlemen' are comissioned by the President and an act of Congress.
They also taught me a set of rules that are quite usefull, if you think about it. (I've translated for civilians, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.)
General Orders for Sentries:
1. To take charge of this post and all government property in view. (Be responsible)
2. To walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert, and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing. (conduct yourself appropriately)
3. To report all violations of orders I am instructed to enforce. (Don't overlook evil)
4. To repeat all calls from posts more distant from the guardhouse than my own. (Communicate with others)
5. To quit my post only when properly relieved. (Don't give up and dump on others)
6. To recieve, obey, and pass on to the sentry who relieves me, all orders from the Commanding Officer, Officer Of the Day, and officers, and noncomissioned officers of the guard only. (Play well with others)
7. To talk to no one except in the line of duty. (Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than open it and remove all doubt)
8. To give the alarm in case of fire or disorder. (Do I really have to explain this?)
9. To call the corporal of the guard in any case not covered by instructions. (If in doubt, ask)
10. To salute all officers, and all colors and standards not cased. (Do you remember all those cowboys saying love and honor your country?)
11. To be especially watchful at night and, during the time for challenging, to challenge all persons on or near my post, and to allow no one to pass without proper authority. (This one gets explained by the one we added...)
#12. Walk my post from flank to flank and take no sh** from any rank. (Edited for civi readers.)
Steven Wilson, MD (Corporal, USMC)
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31st December 11, 10:55 PM
#129
Re: The Rules of the Gentleman
 Originally Posted by artificer
Indeed it is an old version, but still true to the original meaning (and close to my heart). Thank you Ted. I do love my Classical Taoists.  ith:...
Wasn't sure I should explain this, but... I was inspired to read Tao Teh King or Te Ching by a soldier friend who was also a Taoist. He passed away not too long after. The Legge translation was the most readily available to me at the time, though I have several other translations now. The Legge translation is associated with the friend and time, to me.
Last edited by Bugbear; 31st December 11 at 11:12 PM.
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1st January 12, 05:31 PM
#130
Re: One addition to my "Rules of the Gentleman"
 Originally Posted by Alan H
I'm also glad that Panache, who could be mighty tee'd off about the whole thing, is being himself, and keeping his sense of humour intact.  Believe it or not, mine is functioning as well! Yeah, yeah, I know....Ha! but I still am not drinking Gin and Tonic. So I'll toast you and Panache with three fingers of Aberlour 14 year.
Carry on!
That Panache fellow seems like a real gent. I think you should buy him a nice gin and tonic the next time you see him. ith:
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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