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    I connot add much more to this thread but would just like to say this in the Haiku poem style of Japan.

    A family tree.
    Can wither.
    If nobody tends it's roots.

    I think that says it all.

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    The clan tree, roots deep.
    Blooms on love, we're bound as one.
    Anger, limbs fall off.

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    Just found this on the web

    "Cultural identity isn't like a precious vase standing silently in a museum show-case. It's always moving, changing and being challenged by reality that is itself in perpetual movement. I am what I am, but I'm also what I do to change what I... am. There's no such thing as cultural purity, any more than there is racial purity." - Eduardo Galeano

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    Let's look at a few archtypally African-American cultural phenomena: jazz, rock-and-roll, rap, hip-hop. Certainly white boys playing these have been called "playing black", but music knows no boundaries, and there are any number of great white American, not to mention white European examples that we do not call immitations.

    If I'm not mistaken, I think American Country Music is quite popular in Scotland - I've heard that it is so from native pub ownders in remote parts of Skye for sure.

    Should we tell the Brits to stop playing rock-and-roll or how to play it properly? I don't thnk it would even occur to us. And therein is a difference between the new and the old worlds. And therein is a reason we prefer to live where we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBean View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, I think American Country Music is quite popular in Scotland - I've heard that it is so from native pub ownders in remote parts of Skye for sure.
    Think of Isla Grant:

    She began as a folk-singer in Scotland, then went "Country". Some might consider this piece a "Scottish-themed imitation" of Country/Western music, but I find it fascinating:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvSh0qjKtkQ
    "It's all the same to me, war or peace,
    I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBean View Post
    Let's look at a few archtypally African-American cultural phenomena: jazz, rock-and-roll, rap, hip-hop. Certainly white boys playing these have been called "playing black", but music knows no boundaries, and there are any number of great white American, not to mention white European examples that we do not call immitations.

    If I'm not mistaken, I think American Country Music is quite popular in Scotland - I've heard that it is so from native pub ownders in remote parts of Skye for sure.

    .
    I remember that some British musicologists did a study comparing Hank Williams' songs to Elizabethan madrigals, which apparently is what Hank's songs were. That was, for me at the time, quite a stunning and eye-opening revelation.

    And, not to miss a chance, those would have entered Appalachia primarily through the Scots-Irish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBean View Post
    Let's look at a few archtypally African-American cultural phenomena: jazz, rock-and-roll, rap, hip-hop. Certainly white boys playing these have been called "playing black", but music knows no boundaries, and there are any number of great white American, not to mention white European examples that we do not call immitations.
    <snip>
    This is an interesting example. The biggest thing that determines whether or not a person of any ethnicity is just imitating or actually playing those styles of music is how well they are doing it. This is measured agains the standards of those traditions.

    If we bring this back to kilt wearing, I wonder if someone wearing the kilt in a "correct" and traditional way would be as subject to difficulties?

    English Bloke was dressed casually and, judging by pictures he's posted in the past, I'm sure he was looking good by most standards. He may not perhaps have been dressed totally traditional... just a polo shirt instead of a tweed jacket. Or maybe he *gasp* was too matchy-matchy?

    I also recall reading that McMurdo wears the kilt full time and finds that he is much better received if he A) dressed up a bit more than the panted and B) dressed traditionally.

    The rub here is:

    Quote Originally Posted by English Bloke View Post
    <snip> perhaps it was because I wasn't wearing the Kilt with a hired PC jacket, white hose and a nice rabbit 'dress sporran' on a bog chain.
    - Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
    - An t'arm breac dearg

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMcG View Post
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    If we bring this back to kilt wearing, I wonder if someone wearing the kilt in a "correct" and traditional way would be as subject to difficulties?

    English Bloke was dressed casually and, judging by pictures he's posted in the past, I'm sure he was looking good by most standards. He may not perhaps have been dressed totally traditional... just a polo shirt instead of a tweed jacket. Or maybe he *gasp* was too matchy-matchy?

    I also recall reading that McMurdo wears the kilt full time and finds that he is much better received if he A) dressed up a bit more than the panted and B) dressed traditionally.

    The rub here is:





    Er, well, Jock off fishing, casually attired. I don't think I upset any of the local deer,otters, rabbits or even a salmon!

    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Er, well, Jock off fishing, casually attired.
    Jock Scot, you would be the best-dressed fisherman in Canada... by far!!
    - Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMcG View Post
    Jock Scot, you would be the best-dressed fisherman in Canada... by far!!




    Well,one does one's best to dress properly for the occasion, you know!
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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