Scottish and Native American pictures

[MacCathmhaoil]

Take a look at this link, some interesting information that may help!

http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...an_indians.htm

[S.S.Muldoon]

In the book Scottish Clans and Family Names by Roddy Martine there is a photograph of one "Waldo E. McIntosh (USA), Hereditary Chief of the Creek nation, great grandson of Chief William McIntosh Jr., eldest son of William McIntosh, who came to America from Scotland and married the Princess of the Creek nation."
Sorry for lack of a scanner, but the pic shows him wearing a kilt and Native American war bonnet. It's a look that just might catch on faster than the flat-cap/kilt combo!

[aonghas]

No pictures but a thought, both Aboriginals and Scots have a similar social structure I think. Both use a "clan" system to link individuals families to create a close knit bond from within. Mutual sharing of resources, protection, feasts, cultural events and caring for each other. This also extends to the greater "tribe" and in turn "nation".
It was easy for both peoples to integrate with each other, and if I may modestly say the Scots were one of the very few people hardy enough to endure, thrive in the early colonial times.
Beside who can resist a people who play such a marvelous musical instrument. (the drum, well what did you expect )

[cryerelizabeth]

In the book Scottish Clans and Family Names by Roddy Martine there is a photograph of one "Waldo E. McIntosh (USA), Hereditary Chief of the Creek nation, great grandson of Chief William McIntosh Jr., eldest son of William McIntosh, who came to America from Scotland and married the Princess of the Creek nation."
Sorry for lack of a scanner, but the pic shows him wearing a kilt and Native American war bonnet. It's a look that just might catch on faster than the flat-cap/kilt combo!

that would be neat to see the picture, I'll google his name

[S.S.Muldoon]

cryerelizabeth-
Funnily enough, if you DO google "Chief Waldo McIntosh", It will send you right to the thread on this very site discussing the photo in question! As usual, X-Marks has your answer even before you had the question!
So thanks goes to Sciuropterus for his post back in '05.

[tripleblessed]

Trade between the colonies and the Isles was the reason we're here instead of there. A shortage of leather on the Continent and in the Isles caused an uptick in the trade in deer hides shipped out of Charleston. With the creation of Georgia, the frontier relationships between traders, primarily Scots, and native peoples became even closer as competition increased. The ability of Scots to survive the wilderness and their understanding of the similarities between their own clan structure and those of the native family structures gave them a leg up in the dealings. Your paper on the settlement at Darien, Georgia touches peripherally on this. Reportedly the shipping records indicate millions of pounds of hides were shipped through Charleston and Savannah. With the heating up of unpleasantness, the relationships turned to military alliances, and after the war many people followed kin into the interior in search of opportunity. Around the turn of the 18th into the 19th century, my own ggg-grandfather, an Oliver, lost his wife and children to disease. In despair, or the release from obligations, or whatever, he disappeared into the Creek Nation and was lost to his family, though mine found him. He married a Creek woman and settled along the Ohoopee River not far from you. His wife raised their children traditionally, and their daughter married my gg-grandfather, and she raised their children traditionally; meaning that they and the children did not live with their fathers, but with the mothers and their brothers. When the removals came, they were able to remain because their husbands had money, influence and land enough. Had they had to go west, my grandfather would have been on the Dawes list; having stayed, he wasn't.

The MacIntoshes of Darien and Savannah and their cousins the MacGillivrays of Charleston had similar situations, with the result of powerful leaders of the Creek Nation having Scots ancestors. People being who and how they are, there was some mixing of traditions, but pictures from the period, 1720-1835, are mysteriously in short supply . Probably a conspiracy .

Don't know if this link will work, as it's a rotating group of pictures from the MacIntosh image gallery. If it holds, great, if not, flip through the images and there's Waldo MacIntosh at Moy with the Mackintosh. It's labelled as two chiefs together. Chief Waldo is in full native dress, as is his daughter. From 1964. Pictures from Culloden, the Georgia Colony and William MacIntosh, Creek chief at the signing of the Indian Springs Treaty are in the rotation. Also included is a shot from the Stone Mountain Games with Chief Waldo's son, in kilt and full bonnet, leading the Mackintoshes into the parade ground. The party apparently included the Mackintosh. I don't recall any fireworks from that occasion, so, if the Mackintosh had any issues with being seen with someone combining heritage, he was gracious enough not to say anything, unlike some here. And I believe the standing rule is, if your chief is OK with it, then it's OK. Period.

http://www.redwhortleberry.com/gallery/gallery2.html

[Blupiper]

At the recent Bitterroot Scottish Irish Festival, the Chieftains of the Games were MacDonalds representing the Kalispel Tribe. The Website is: http://bitterrootscottishirishfestival.org/ and you can find the photos under 'Events' and then 'Clan Gathering.' Pretty impressive in their regalia.

JMB