someone please tell me definitively:

[Riverkilt]

Thanks for that history Matt....I be wiser now.

Sometimes, I find myself explaining my tartan kilts to the adolescents in my fair city as my "gang colors"....THEN, they understand...

Currently working on a plan to have each of the hundred or so Navajo clans adopt a clan tartan and set to weaving the cloth. Navajo warriors wore leather skirts many years ago. If I can develop the Navajo interest I'll have a handy supply of Navajo ladies weaving and sewing kilts in Navajo clan tartans...

Don't snicker too loud, it fits, they already have regional weaving patterns for their rugs.

Think of it, a new Native American kilt boom...!

Back to plotting....

Ron

Ron

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I wouldn't doubt it. There is already an Echota tartan (for the Cherokee), and I think maybe a tartan for the Creeks, though I'm not sure. When you consider how many Rosses and MacIntoshes, Stewarts, Camerons, MacDonalds and the like intermarried with the tribes in the southeast, it is hardly surprising.
Matt

[Doc Hudson]

I wouldn't doubt it. There is already an Echota tartan (for the Cherokee), and I think maybe a tartan for the Creeks, though I'm not sure. When you consider how many Rosses and MacIntoshes, Stewarts, Camerons, MacDonalds and the like intermarried with the tribes in the southeast, it is hardly surprising.
Matt

Actually, several Chiefs of the Creek Nation were named Ross, McGilivery(SP?), McIntosh, and Weatherford.

And there have been several Ross Chiefs of the Cherokee Nation.

[macwilkin]

And don't forget all of the Scots who intermarried into the tribes of the First Nations of Canada through the fur trade. There is a Hudson Bay Company tartan that would be very appropriate for these folks to wear, since so many of the HBC's employees were from the Orkneys.

Matt, do you have an image of the Echota tartan? I would like to see that.

Cheers,

Todd

[macwilkin]

Great post, Matt! Would you consider turning that into an article as well? That information NEEDS to be out there & available to folks.

Cheers,

Todd

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Todd,

You are an STA member. You can see the tartan on their site:

http://www.tartansauthority.com/web/...artan=cherokee

Other names for the tartan are "Cherokee" and "Chickamauga."

Aye,
Matt

[macwilkin]

Oops -- I should have thought of that, Matt!

I'm recovering from the latest bug that's going 'round, so the antihistimines are slowing down the ol' nuerons from firing this morning! :mrgreen:

Thought of another Native American tartan: The Tulsa District Tartan has quite a bit of Native American symbolism in it, and Chinniubie (sic?) McIntosh, the fellow who wears a McIntosh kilt with traditional Creek (Muscogee) garb at games in my neck of the woods, was on the committee that designed it.

If I remember correctly, his father Dode McIntosh, wore a similar outfit to a gathering of McIntoshes in Scotland in the 1960's.

Cheers,

Todd

[GMan]

Matt,

This post is one reason I am glad you are posting here, Thank You

[Daneel]

As a kilt wearer here in Ireland I have yet to see anyone outside of Bands, Dance Groups or Irish Regiments wearing either the Amber or Green kilts associated with Ireland. I wear my amber kilt as part of my Scout Uniform at formal parades and activities. I am one of very few who do. I do wear it on St Patricks Day when I attend the parade in Down Patrick. There is not a true tradition of kilt wearing on a day to day basis and in the past it would not have been common except possibilly among the Ulster Scots. Its like so many of these 'Traditions' etc. they are started usually by one or two people as a desire to be different or associate with greater group IE the Celts. In the end as has been said before a kilt is a peice of clothing not a peice of uniform of special event wear it is just a long peice of cloth. Having now moved into the world TFCK I now realize that we need to kill off some of these associations if we want people to take kilt wearing as an option to the dreaded trews.