Trouble in the Glen

**Doc Hudson** · 8th March 05, 01:08 PM

The red and white tartan was not the only one used. The effigy burned by the townsfolk was not the red and white. The Margaret Lockwood character, Marissa also wore a tartan dress, which seemed to match the kilt and plaid on the burning effigy.

Any ideas of what tartan was on the plaid and trews worn by Victor McLaglen?

**Geoduck** · 8th March 05, 04:47 PM

After some brief research, this movie sounds painfully inaccurate. I do think that I'll buy it, though, just to see the "Red and White" on screen, albeit, the villain. I kind of doubt they used Castle Menzies, and it doesn't sound like it takes place in Weem or even Aberfeldy, but it will be a fun watch anyway.

George

**Hamish** · 8th March 05, 04:54 PM

Margaret Lockwood? Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! I had a schoolboy crush on Margaret. She was GORGEOUS. I still have two hand-written letters I received from her. Ohhh!

But "Trouble in the Glen" ....... why have I never heard of this film?

I thought I had seen every film she had ever made.

**Doc Hudson** · 8th March 05, 05:33 PM

It's a shame you are too far away to invite over for popcorn and a movie. I'm sure you'd enjoy it.

The movie stars Orson Wells, Margaret Lockwood, Forrest Tucker, and Victor McLaglen. It is set in the late 1940's or early 1950's.

Lots of beautiful Scottish countryside, and lots of colourful Scottish characters, and an extremely irracible Orson Wells who is constantly damning all things Scottish, especially Scots.

It is not a major classic, but it is a most enjoyable movie.

BTW Hamish, have you noticed the suggestions Jimmy Carbomb and I made for you on the Kiltmakers Forum?

**macwilkin** · 8th March 05, 07:21 PM

Margaret Lockwood? Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! I had a schoolboy crush on Margaret. She was GORGEOUS. I still have two hand-written letters I received from her. Ohhh!

What about Janet Munro of "Darby O'Gill" fame?

www.janetmunro.com

My Dad had a crush on her when he was a kid, and so did I when I first saw "Darby O'Gill".

Ashley Judd holds that honour now, though! :mrgreen:

Back to "Trouble in the Glen" now!

Cheers,

Todd

**Geoduck** · 22nd March 05, 11:32 AM

After learning of the film on this thread, I purchased it for about $4 (including shipping) on ebay. I finally had a chance to watch it last night and can assure you that there are two varriations of the Menzies tartan present. The more common is the Menzies hunting, the green and red seen frequently. There is also a very similar tartan that was the correct colorings, but not the correct sett, that Margaret Lockwood wore many times. I do admit, though, that I was watching on a rather small screen and that it could have been a correct tartan.

In the final scene Orson is wearing a Menzies Red and White Dress tartan. A fine tartan that I have yet to purchase.

I have to say that I enjoyed the film. It was filmed in an area that looked very much like Weem and Aberfeldy, but it definately wasn't. The castle they used looked nothing like Castle Menzies, so that was a disappointment. The only thing that I could see that was a true allusion to the Menzies lands, was the reference to "Tay Moor" (I believe that's what they said). Castle Menzies is just off Loch Tay and the River Tay, and I figure that may have been someones homage to the Clan. All in all, an enjoyable 90 minutes.

"What is it with this country that keeps a man out of his trousers?"

Laird Menzies

**JazzKiltz** · 22nd March 05, 01:26 PM

that the discussion of the pronunciation of "Menzies" made me think of one of my favorite composers, Charles Mingus.

Also, the talk about how the Celtic names got misspelled, mangled and otherwise altered got me thinking about our "sirnames" and where they originated.

Anyway, don't want to hijack this thread so I'll stop now. Mostly just wanted to post a pic of Mingus... :P