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12th April 05, 12:54 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by Iolaus
Someone brought up a long cotton sleeping shirt, kinda' like a 42" long t-shirt, that seemed like a good idea.
I have one of those. It works quite well.
Also, in the old days shirts were considerably longer, which accomplishes the same thing.
Glenn
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12th April 05, 02:33 PM
#12
That reminds me of the traditional Irish garb, the long tunic cinched at the waist. Cept this time its cinched with a kilt, not a belt.
"I don't know what to say to anyone and as soon as I open my mouth they'll say, Oh, you're Irish, and I'll have to explain how that happened." - F McCourt
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12th April 05, 04:57 PM
#13
slip?
I have to agree with Colin. A slip is very girly. The traditional kilts have a lining in the top portion of the kilt (mine is green). If you're worried about any other type of cleanliness, I would say it's best to wear underwear.
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21st April 05, 12:12 AM
#14
Sorry to come to this one rather late.
Over the years I've become aware of myriad views as to what should be under the kilt, which leads to the one view-that there are no rules-it is entirely up to the individual.
Variations range from those kilt material shorts that makers used to provide-do they still do so?
Regular male underwear.
The comment in MacDonald Fraser's book [about his time in the army and as an officer in a highland regiment] about the Drum Major wearing regimental sports shorts under his kilt.
I know regular kilt wearers who do in fact wear a slip/petticoat under their kilt-and others who swear by nothing-and every possible combination in between.
There is too the long highland shirt reach to just above the knees which some swear by.
Too in my younger days men's shirts were much longer-so covering the vital areas and so obviating the need for underwear.
I'll try and find it-but I recall reading a book about highland dress many years ago, by a purported expert which suggested that supportive male underwear was advised.
Too the lining built into a kilt is to support the material-and protect the waist area from perspiration.
So I do not think, based upon too many years of wearing the kilt, that there are in fact any rules: in fact those who go on about wearing the kilt in the correct way, are really rather boring, and probably not kilt wearers or at least not regular ones.
Rather I would suggest that it is up to each and every kilt wearer to make up their own mind, in accord with their own views in respect of comfort hygiene, and of course protecting the kilt from such things as perspiration.
Certainly based upon my own experience it would be wrong to be critical of another man's entirely personal choice-for it is the wearers business and theirs only.
James
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21st April 05, 06:20 AM
#15
My understanding is that the shirts that were worn w/ the kilt used to be nearly as long as the kilt itself. A re-enactor friend of my wife made one for me and it's really indistigushable from a nightshirt and comes down nearly to my knees. It's a simple, useful design that's hard to improve on, so it was worn for centuries by lots of people. Under the kilt it keeps the wool away from the skin which can make it a lot more comfortable. For that reason it works better than just wearing underwear. Nowadays it's not real practical, though. The collar looks pretty weird to most people other than re-enactors. and you can't find t-shirts, golf shirts or regular shirt that are that long. The lining on my kilts is only around the waist and mostly just keeps the wool off the waist and helps hold the kilt together, I think. A cotton slip kind of thing would only be a replacement for the portion of the old-style shirt that's supposed to go with the kilt but isn't generally available anymore, so I don't see any problem with wearing it. Many articles of clothing women now wear seem to be based on what men used to wear - kilt, hose, garters, blouse, bonnet - so a cotton slip for the kilt doesn't seem too feminine to me. But it might be a lot to keep track of if you also want to tuck your shirt tails in.
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21st April 05, 08:04 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by Planopiper
you can't find t-shirts, golf shirts or regular shirt that are that long.
Actually, you can find shirts and t-shirts that long, you just have to look in the right spots.
That right spot being a Big and Tall Man's shop.
I suggest you try King Size, I think they have a website, but I don't have a catalog within reach at the moment.
Order or buy in a shop a t-shirt or golf shirt in your normal size but Tall or Extra-Tall. I would not recommend this with a long sleeved shirt, unless you are willing to have the sleeves tailored to fit your arms.
Fact is, my wife uses a sleep shirt that she bought in the college book store, it is call "The Big Shirt" which is noting more than an over-sized t-shirt, the thing comes down to mid-thigh on my 6' tall wife.
Seek and ye shall find. Just be prepared to look outside of regular channels.
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21st April 05, 10:11 AM
#17
With all the "hip hop" styles these days it shouldn't too hard to find an extra long t-shirt.
I remember seeing them at the mall, they're actually called "long t's", I just can't remember which store.
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21st April 05, 11:48 AM
#18
 Originally Posted by Planopiper
...you can't find t-shirts, golf shirts or regular shirt that are that long.
http://www.wittmanntextiles.com/mensunderwear.html
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21st April 05, 01:29 PM
#19
I think that what a man wears under his kilt (or any other clothing) is his own business. Some of our male soldiers in Iraq wear panty hose under their BDUs to protect from chafing in the desert heat.
Apparently they got the idea from the female soldiers who weren't having the chafing problems the men were having.
If you want to call any of those guys sissys, feel free to walk up to them and say so.
I'd suggest calling 911 first. You might not be able to later.
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21st April 05, 01:50 PM
#20
I agree Rigged. And S.O.P. in my unit was "commando" while in the field. This practice made life much more bearable when hot or in the process of drying out.
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