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    Next thing we know, they will be complaining that we leave the lids up!

    Cheers

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    Women are controlling by nature. Its just part of their biological thingy. I gave up trying to figure it out. I just turn around and do my own thing... No offense to the ladies in this board.

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    Erm...this might not be my place, but can we watch that this doesn't turn into a rant against women or a 'things we don't like about women' post. I think Riverkilt brings up a good subject and a potentially significant one, it's just sad when people start dropping posts that don't really add anything to the subject and come across a little as rants.

    My thinking is that it's posisble that there's something within their nature that females need to identify and keep in check, just as there is in males, and perhaps it may relate to this subject of men often feeling as though their territory is being invaded leaving them nowhere to themselves.

    Regards.

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    I think I would rather see a woman 'out' of a UK..... ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ricky
    Next thing we know, they will be complaining that we leave the lids up!

    Cheers
    My mother trained me to always lower the lid :grin:

    Rob

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    This subject has come up in various forms in the last year, and inevitably it comes down to the arguement that the kilt is a men's garment and women are invading on our turf. This has applied whether it was about kilts, sporrans or even playing the Highland bagpipes.

    Kilt wearers feel like they're being trampled on. Kilt makers are ecstatic.

    I LOVE the look of a woman in a kilt... even a UtiliKilt. It's sexy, strong and supportive.

    They're just collectively proving that they have impeccable taste.
    Arise. Kill. Eat.

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    My wife has 3!

    I like a number of folks have been looking for an inexpensive way to break in kilt ownership. Last June while on vacation in Seattle We stopped by the Utilikilts shop and looked over the goods. I bought a kaki original for myself, and an olive for her. We both loved them, and she ordered me an olive for our anniversary.
    This past weekend at the Scottish games here in Tulsa, she bought a black workman’s from the Utilikilts booth. Yesterday I ordered us both an Amerikilt in marpat! When she wears one it’s a kilt, and not a skirt. She also comments that kilts are much better than a skirt. Do I feel threatened by her kilt wear? No, why should I? It takes nothing from me, and in fact it adds to my kilt wearing experience.
    Do I take issue with a woman in the mens room? Hell yes, but I fail to see the correlation. And yes, my wife believes when in Rome do as the Romans! She wears hers regimental too!

    Geary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldpagan
    ... And yes, my wife believes when in Rome do as the Romans! She wears hers regimental too!
    Geary
    The fun you must have in the car (and other places!).
    RJI
    The kilt concealed a blaster strapped to his thigh. Lazarus Long

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    Bravehearts' Kilt Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldpagan
    I like a number of folks have been looking for an inexpensive way to break in kilt ownership. Last June while on vacation in Seattle We stopped by the Utilikilts shop and looked over the goods. I bought a kaki original for myself, and an olive for her. We both loved them, and she ordered me an olive for our anniversary.
    This past weekend at the Scottish games here in Tulsa, she bought a black workman’s from the Utilikilts booth. Yesterday I ordered us both an Amerikilt in marpat! When she wears one it’s a kilt, and not a skirt. She also comments that kilts are much better than a skirt. Do I feel threatened by her kilt wear? No, why should I? It takes nothing from me, and in fact it adds to my kilt wearing experience.
    Do I take issue with a woman in the mens room? Hell yes, but I fail to see the correlation. And yes, my wife believes when in Rome do as the Romans! She wears hers regimental too!

    Geary
    That web site includes an analysis which states that womens' skirts are designed to be sexy rather than practical. Just the opposite of a Utilikilt. If a woman wants to wear a practical unbifurcated garment what are her options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Walker
    That web site includes an analysis which states that womens' skirts are designed to be sexy rather than practical. Just the opposite of a Utilikilt. If a woman wants to wear a practical unbifurcated garment what are her options?
    (The Macabi skirt? I've been wearing the hell outta mine.)

    The problem is not finding things that are unsexy, (in the sense of- not wearing it for that reason) anyone can find that at S-mart* on the clearance rack- it's finding stuff that men will think are not worth mentioning or ogling or what have you- an entirely different kettle of fish. Let's face it, for every guy that wolf whistles at a mini skirt and thigh-highs, there's a guy who thinks a gal in combat boots and a unisex uniform like BDUs** is the sexiest thing alive. Sometimes, they're the same person.

    On the one hand- yes, it is a male garment. On the other- it is a practical garment. One that in the (semi-traditional) women's world of high heels, tight pants, short skirts, and low-cut tops... not exactly a bad thing.

    I certainly feel like I'm crossdressing a bit if I put on an Amirkilt, but no more than if I were to wear a tailored business suit or button-down shirt- but the reality is that women can wear these things because our wardrobes have been sadly lacking in practicality for a while, and the road is still being gained.

    There's another way of looking at it I don't think y'all are considering- I've seen a couple wedding pictures and dates on this website- and usually the male in full Scottish dress is much more colorful than the female, what with the jacket, accessories, flashes, and hat... bascially, a lot more fussing than I do on an everyday basis. Or heck, even a formal basis.

    Could it be that femininity and masculinity are not defined by what we wear, but who we are? If you're a guy, you're gonna be a guy in a prom dress. If you're a woman, you're gonna be a woman in a piper's uniform. (BTW- is piping/drumming/etc only supposed to be allowed for men? Or is there a female uniform I'm unaware of?)

    I don't think women should wear kilts unless they 'have' to, like in a uniform or for historical purposes. (If a Polish guy can play a Scottish soldier in a reeanactment, why is a woman wrong?) I just don't see why all the fuss about women wearing something that's not even traditional.

    *Shop smart... shop S-Mart
    **The camoflage uniform you see on soldiers, for those not in the know.
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