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    re: work and church
    Work will refuse me entry, I will fight it and win and so have a paid holiday. I know the law and policy better than the security but it's not worth the hassle so far. I have to change into work clothes anyway so it would be just a show. Nearly happened a few years ago, when they introduced ITARS regulations but I was off anyway. You probably need to measure that one out carefully.

    Church will surprise you, it did me. It has come up on other threads. Maybe they feel, because they are "brothers and sisters" they can be as loose as family. Be ready for that.

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    Welcome to the forum, and you look great in the kilt, congrats on your first outings, it gets better.

    Now that I have experienced being in the USA kilted for the first time i feel I can relate better to all you US folk.

    Reactions have been fine for me. A couple of places (Denver Museum today) I've been asked if I brought my bagpipes. the lady in question finally apologising for stereotyping me after I asked her if she brought her banjo (she was American, it was the first instrument with US associations I cold think of).

    It gets better, the more you wear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    re: work and church

    Church will surprise you, it did me. It has come up on other threads. Maybe they feel, because they are "brothers and sisters" they can be as loose as family. Be ready for that.
    quoting myself, not too bad, eh. should point out that in my case this happened at a church social, still a surprise. Not sure if I would wear my kilt to the service itself. It would be a distraction to a number of people and saying "tough", in that context, goes against my beliefs. I'll think about that: comments?
    The other thing is to weddings. I won't do that anymore. One time I think more photos were taken of me and the bride than the groom and the bride. I was the only kilt and formal. (They're divorced now.) The other time I declined and I'm glad I did. My good friend was going to wear his family's kilt for the first time and his parents didn't know. When he started down the aisle and his dad saw him, his dad started crying. I think if I had been wearing a kilt, it would have taken away the impact and that moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    The other thing is to weddings. I won't do that anymore.
    Yeah, that's going to be an interesting one for me. My youngest daughter is 20, and she's already said that she wants me in a kilt to walk her down the aisle. She is still deciding whether she wants a modern wedding or a Renaissance type.

    Oh, and I DID wear a sporran while in public. I didn't even realize that I had taken it off for the picture.

    I certainly hope no one asks about "my pipes". The few ugly squacks I make from my practice chanter scares away small animals.

    I'm still unsure about my footwear. Sure, I'm very comfortable with the sneakers and low socks look, but how to be a bit more "authentic" is still a question to me. I've heard about the moccasin without fringes, but am still undecided. Everything is strictly casual at this time. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

    Finally, a GREAT MANY THANKS for all the positive reinforcement for all of you here. It helps a bunch to know that there are others around the world that have voluntarily chosen to wear a kilt, be it full time or just occasionally. That in itself encourages me to step out and wear it more often - much more than just the yearly Highland Festival or Renaissance Fair - and make it part of my usual attire.

    And THANK YOU to the webmaster for creating a place where those of us that wear a kilt may come together and converse, advise, and congratulate each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Not sure if I would wear my kilt to the [church] service itself. It would be a distraction to a number of people and saying "tough", in that context, goes against my beliefs. I'll think about that: comments?
    I have very poor friends whose presence in church would certainly distract other attendees. Should I discourage them from going to church? It's a shame. People, especially "church people" need to be more accepting and welcoming. They need to get over it - the world is naturally diverse and we are not born with a suit and tie. Just my comments.

    Kevin

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    Lookin good! And Welcome. Like Blu said where it when you want and wear you want.

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    Aye Laddie

    You be one of us for sure. Easy to tell from your pic. You got a pair all right.

    Welcome to the joy of kilts. Ere long you'll be sporting a Marine Corps tartan in support of your son, then a bunch of contemporary kilts, then a hand sewn tank of your clan tartan...tis a joy.

    Thanks for the big pic of the Stewart black, have been wanting one, never considered Stillwater as a source for that pattern. Off to check it out.

    Ron
    Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
    Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
    "I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."

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    Hey there, Shamalama. That's a great picture. I just ordered one exactly the same, so I'm glad to hear about your three day delivery time. Mine will take a little longer (coming across the border) and I can hardly wait. Enjoy wearing your new kilt!
    "Touch not the cat bot a glove."

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    I for one, wear a kilt to church. At this point it is usually a grey mocker or my still water. I currently attend a Presbyterian church (fairly liberal), but I was raised Southern Baptist. In fact my father is a SB minister in Norfolk, VA (any SB's here that live on the pennunsula would know my dad). I have yet to wear a kilt to his church, but that is only from lack of a chance. I was supposed to sing one Sunday last summer, but had to cancel at the last minute (O'm in Cincinnati BTW). I had fully expected to be kilted.

    There is a difference between "causing a brother to fault" by leading them into temptation, and them just not being able to "get" your clothing choice.

    Adam

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    First Point: My Grandfather wore his Kilt to church every Sunday up until the week he died. He was a strict Presbyterian, and I know for a fact that the thought never occured to him to NOT wear his Kilt to church, or to the many events and social gatherings he attended as a representative, and Elder of his church.

    Second Point: Quote from previous post: ".....have a private conversation with the Pastor to make sure that my "right" to wear anything I want does not infringe on the "what" a church is or represents."

    The above statement is why many people shun organized religions. The Reformation occurred just because of that thinking ... it is not 'what' the church represents; rather it is 'whom' the church represents. Just as the Sun does not revolve around the Earth, God does not revolve around the church, rather it is the church that should revolve around God. If you have to seek permission so as to insure that you will ‘fit in’ then I think you may have missed the whole point of why you are there IMHO.

    Point 3: I personally wear my Kilt anytime and anywhere I wish. It has absolutely no bearing on my faith or my relationship with my, or any other mortal interptitation of religious compliance.

    With that said, I respect and understand that this is my opinion only, and we all know about opinions ……

    Brian Mackay
    "I find that a great part of the information I have was acquired by looking up something and finding something else on the way."
    - Franklin P. Adams

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