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3rd October 05, 12:19 PM
#11
Originally Posted by Graham
I'm with you KiltedBishop, I've said before here that I believe kilts are for men only (with the only exception in Pipe bands, and I'm even a little iffy about that).
for the lassies it's tartan or pleated skirts, long or short, I prefer long.
Aye that pretty well sums it up for me as well.
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3rd October 05, 12:22 PM
#12
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what reference materials and highland dress I've seen, a kilt has two buckles on the right and one on the left, but a tartan skirt had two on the left and one one the right, similar to how men's shirts and pants are buttoned opposite women's blouses and pants.
Now, it shouldn't be that difficult to switch the second strap right to left, should it? A very simple alteration (I'm leaving out the direction of the pleats, because I can't recall of the top of my head). Men's kilt one way, tartan skirt the other. Just a thought.
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3rd October 05, 01:57 PM
#13
It doesn't bother me that women wear kilts, it's just that I remember that Utilikilts are made specifically for men and advertised that way. Like KiltedBishop said, I remember seeing or hearing something from Steven Villeagas (sp) to the effect that his kilts are a men's garment and that would never change.
It would be like putting a cross-dressing male in the Victoria's Secret catalog. Everyone is entitled to wear what they want, but UK made a point of marketing to men. It's the inconsistency.
Dale
--Working for the earth is not a way to get rich, it is a way to be rich
The Most Honourable Dale the Unctuous of Giggleswick under Table
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3rd October 05, 04:02 PM
#14
I raised this very point on the Utilikilts forum about four years ago, maybe longer, and was practically shouted off the 'premises'. Personally, I don't think Utilikilts (in particular) look 'right' on women anyway, at least not on feminine women.
As for our traditional kilts being worn by women: no, no and no again! Even in pipe bands. If a male soldier finds himself in a women's army band, is he expected to wear a skirt? No, of course not. So why should women pipers in a mostly male pipe band wear a male uniform? Utter nonsense!
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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3rd October 05, 04:05 PM
#15
well put Hamish, and uncharacteristically forceful, if I may say so! ;-)
who would dare argue with that!!!
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3rd October 05, 04:07 PM
#16
Originally Posted by Wompet
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what reference materials and highland dress I've seen, a kilt has two buckles on the right and one on the left, but a tartan skirt had two on the left and one one the right, similar to how men's shirts and pants are buttoned opposite women's blouses and pants.
Now, it shouldn't be that difficult to switch the second strap right to left, should it? A very simple alteration (I'm leaving out the direction of the pleats, because I can't recall of the top of my head). Men's kilt one way, tartan skirt the other. Just a thought.
that's true and a good point. I think Pipe bands should adopt that one concession at the very least!
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3rd October 05, 04:29 PM
#17
Here is the Utilikiltarian of the month for September, 2005.
Emily Jane Steinberg
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3rd October 05, 04:42 PM
#18
Originally Posted by Wompet
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what reference materials and highland dress I've seen, a kilt has two buckles on the right and one on the left, but a tartan skirt had two on the left and one one the right, similar to how men's shirts and pants are buttoned opposite women's blouses and pants.
okay, you're wrong.
My references are Geoffrey tailor kilts and the Tartan Authority site, that's Matt's, isn't it.
Once we're talking about the heavy kilt, buckles, etc., there's no significant difference, get over it. The women's kilt is a bit lighter, that's it. Once a man chooses a lighter weight kilt, they're the same. It's what's inside that counts.
Wear a sporran, belt maybe, and attitude.
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3rd October 05, 04:47 PM
#19
Hmm. I wouldn't even think of wearing a kilt. It doesn't bother me to see other women wearing kilts, but I personally would feel odd wearing one. Men wear kilts, women wear skirts... I don't see why a woman would want to wear one when there are endless styles of skirts to choose from.
Besides, we really ought to leave you men something of your own.
Ione
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3rd October 05, 04:55 PM
#20
Originally Posted by Iolanthe
Hmm. I wouldn't even think of wearing a kilt. It doesn't bother me to see other women wearing kilts, but I personally would feel odd wearing one. Men wear kilts, women wear skirts... I don't see why a woman would want to wear one when there are endless styles of skirts to choose from.
Besides, we really ought to leave you men something of your own.
Ione
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Ione. You deserve a hug, but my arms won't reach that far! (Wherever you are!!).
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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