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20th June 07, 08:04 PM
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Open Hand
George,
You could be right. My information is related to the hand salute of the Armed Forces. Is is said that the open hand in days gone past was meant as a sign of peace and an indicator the the person did not possess weapons. Particularily given the Lamont's moto, I took both matters to be of the same origin.
What more do you know of the Irish side of the matter. I'm interested.
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27th February 08, 08:09 PM
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And I Do Most Solemnly Swear
 Originally Posted by Don Patrick
George,
You could be right. My information is related to the hand salute of the Armed Forces. Is is said that the open hand in days gone past was meant as a sign of peace and an indicator the the person did not possess weapons. Particularily given the Lamont's moto, I took both matters to be of the same origin.
What more do you know of the Irish side of the matter. I'm interested.
I would be wary of ascribing an Irish connection to the Lamonts, based simply on the crest. The name itself derives from the Old Norse for "lawman". Looking closely at the motto "Neither Spare Nor Dispose" one could posit that it refers to taking an oath, and being faithful to it, without favour or prejudice.
Certainly the raised open hand has been a sign of making a pledge or swearing an oath from the earliest times.
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24th January 07, 06:16 AM
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Clan MacGregor: "S Rioghal Mo Dhream"; My race is royal
Clan Farquharson: "Fide Et Fortitudine"; with Fidelity and Fortitude
Clan MacFarlane: "This I'll Defend"
Clan MacAuley: "Dulce Periculum"; Danger is Sweet
It doesn't matter what clan you belong to, as long as you are scottish
Ard Choille
Mike
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 Originally Posted by ardchoille77
Clan MacGregor: "S Rioghal Mo Dhream"; My race is royal
Clan Farquharson: "Fide Et Fortitudine"; with Fidelity and Fortitude
Clan MacFarlane: "This I'll Defend"
Clan MacAuley: "Dulce Periculum"; Danger is Sweet
It doesn't matter what clan you belong to, as long as you are scottish
Ard Choille
Mike
I wonder if the US Army Office of Heraldry realizes that they our motto "This We'll Defend" is copped from the MacFarlanes and the Kincaids?
Last edited by majdan; 6th June 07 at 12:38 PM.
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24th January 07, 06:34 AM
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Clan Douglas: Jamais arriere. Never behind. Which is somewhat ironic, seeing as how the Douglas enemies were fond of warning each other "Look out! Behind you!" Of course, at that point, to late. The boogyman had come and got them.
Clan MacLennan: Dum spiro spero. While I breath I hope. A good personal reminder for me.
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1st March 07, 08:47 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
Clan Douglas: Jamais arriere. Never behind. Which is somewhat ironic, seeing as how the Douglas enemies were fond of warning each other "Look out! Behind you!" Of course, at that point, to late. The boogyman had come and got them.
Clan MacLennan: Dum spiro spero. While I breath I hope. A good personal reminder for me.
I figured you'd post this before I did, lol. Here's my imput...

Also, my other family association is Russell, which is a part of the Cumming family, and has been posted already.
Sorcha
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24th January 07, 06:41 AM
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Clan Graham:
Gaelic Name: Greumach
Motto: Ne oublie (Do not forget)
Badge: Laurel
Lands: Loch Katrine, Perthshire, Dundee and Montrose
Origin of Name: Old English, graeham (greyhome)
Pipe Music: Killiecrankie
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24th January 07, 03:48 PM
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Fathers side:
Motto: Dominus fecit - "The Lord made".
Badge: an Eagle's head.
Names associated with the clan: BAARD BEARD BAIRD BEIRD MACBARD BARDE BARD
My mothers side is cummings and it was already said.
Knowlege is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad
 Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
If people don't like it they can go sit on a thistle.
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27th January 07, 08:29 PM
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Connell
Ciall agus neart (Reason and strength)
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28th January 07, 04:15 AM
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Snodgrass
Facta non verba (Deeds, not words)
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