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    Thanks for the recommendation. That's the kind of service I'm looking for in a merchant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David White View Post
    The Edwards and Morgan tartans look nice, both family from Wales.
    My Great Grandmother was an Edwards. They were extremely wealthy. They owned Edwards Hall in Glamorganshire, Wales down by Cardiff. I have all their history and it's even rumored that one of the Edwards sons was the bastard son of Henry the VIII. But only they knew I guess because now it's only speculation. Anyway, I love the Edwards tartan and hope to acquire it one day as well. Speaking of...Are there any major physical differences from Scottish and Welsh kilts/cilts?
    Christopher Grinder
    Scottish - Polk/Pollock, Henderson, Malcolm, Forrest/Forrester, MacGregor, Montgomery, MacAlister/McAllister and MacKenzie

    Welsh - Edwards, Davis

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgrinder View Post
    My Great Grandmother was an Edwards. They were extremely wealthy. They owned Edwards Hall in Glamorganshire, Wales down by Cardiff. I have all their history and it's even rumored that one of the Edwards sons was the bastard son of Henry the VIII. But only they knew I guess because now it's only speculation. Anyway, I love the Edwards tartan and hope to acquire it one day as well. Speaking of...Are there any major physical differences from Scottish and Welsh kilts/cilts?
    No there aren't any physical differences, those come more with the extras such as slightly different PCs and the Ysgrepan instead of the sporran. It's perfectly OK to take mix and match approach and wear Scottish extras with a Welsh cilt which is what I do. You can maintain the Welsh flavour with the belt and sporran set they offer with the Welsh Dragon if, like me, you are not keen on the Ysgrepan.

    The only difference on the cilt is the embroidered emblem of either a St David's Cross or the Red Dragon, this would be unusual on a kilt.

    are meant to be broken
    [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.

    Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
    (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

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    Well thank you, I appreciate that. I mean you can look at pictures all day long and still you may not be able to pick up the subtle differences. That's the reason I asked the question because as of yet I haven't been able to tell any major differences between the two.
    Christopher Grinder
    Scottish - Polk/Pollock, Henderson, Malcolm, Forrest/Forrester, MacGregor, Montgomery, MacAlister/McAllister and MacKenzie

    Welsh - Edwards, Davis

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    You're welcome

    The only other difference I can think of is that the tartans are all woven in Wales but they are not necessarily made into cilts there as the centre has connections with various kiltmakers according to timescale requirements.

    [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.

    Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
    (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

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    Also, the Welsh material does not have a selvage edge so the cilts are usually hemmed along the bottom.
    A kilted Celt on the border.
    Kentoc'h mervel eget bezań saotret
    Omne bellum sumi facile, ceterum ęgerrume desinere.


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