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    I agree with you Panache. I fenced epee in college, and being 6'3", I dreaded those short little guys, with their speed. I could always outreach them, but a good beat/glide, and BAM. They were inside, and they had you.

    And the final duel reminded me of a for fun bout between me (an epeeist) and a sabre fencer. It ended up a draw, as we stayed at la belle for 8 touches (we forwent right-of-way for this bout). An epee and a baskethilt would be fairly evenly matched, depending on the skill level of the users.

    As for the end of the duel, well what can you expect from one of those barbarian sabrists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMurdo View Post
    I just saw Rob Roy for the first time last week, . . . how much material did they use for Liam's Great kilt, .
    Did anyone else notice that Liam's "great kilt" was actually a "little kilt" with a big, wadded up sash--like thing over the shoulder? He took it off in a couple of scenes, and, as the wearer of a great kilt, I can assure you that I cannot remove the over-ther-should part of the breachen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescot View Post
    Did anyone else notice that Liam's "great kilt" was actually a "little kilt" with a big, wadded up sash--like thing over the shoulder? He took it off in a couple of scenes, and, as the wearer of a great kilt, I can assure you that I cannot remove the over-ther-should part of the breachen.
    Yep, Rob is wearing a feilidh beag, and the "big, wadded up sash-like thing" is simply a shoulder plaid, like this fellow is carrying:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    Yep, Rob is wearing a feilidh beag, and the "big, wadded up sash-like thing" is simply a shoulder plaid, like this fellow is carrying:

    Aye, a feileidh mhor--"big kilt" or great kilt--is one piece of cloth. I don't think ole Rob would have ever heard of a feilich beag in the early 1700s. I don't think they were invented yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescot View Post
    Aye, a feileidh mhor--"big kilt" or great kilt--is one piece of cloth. I don't think ole Rob would have ever heard of a feilich beag in the early 1700s. I don't think they were invented yet.

    That's a matter of great debate! Peter MacDonald, the costume consultant on the film, believes the philabeg dates to the late 1600's, NOT to an English "inventor" in the 1720's (as do others)....

    Here's Peter's website: http://www.scottishtartans.co.uk/
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    You mean the USS Nimitz didn't REALLY time-warp back to the Battle of Midway??? GASP!

    (Removing tongue from cheek.)

    Having taught at college too, I'll agree - Hollywood can make life more difficult for us to get the "accurate" information out. But it can also be a great tool in introducing learners to new subjects/areas, and motivate them to dig in and do the research to find out the truth!

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    Said it before, say it again:

    Those who do not study history are condemned to learning it from Hollywood.

    ...and speaking of perverted history, I'm still looking for a screen shot of Mr. Peabody (from Rocky and Bullwinkle) in a kilt...I know it's out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auld argonian View Post
    Said it before, say it again:

    Those who do not study history are condemned to learning it from Hollywood.


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    Aye, Hollywood has a lot to answer for in that department!

    It's not just Hollywood but other film industries too where a few real characters and events get woven in with a lot of fiction. I think the disclaimers should be bigger and more visible than they are.
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    There has been at least one movie about Leonidas and his "300 Spartans" already.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055719/

    The title alone is misleading as to the numbers as there were 700 Thespians and 7000 other Greeks involved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by McClef View Post
    There has been at least movie about Leonidas and his "300 Spartans" already.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055719/
    Bye gents!

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