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30th August 07, 01:04 PM
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 Originally Posted by Casper
Hear, hear!
I find it odd... all of the times people here get incredibly mad when someone either asks the question, or performs an impromptu check. All of the talk of rude comments to people, or popping them in the nose, just baffles me.
I'm fine with either... question, or kilt check. Maybe i'm just a bit of a manwhore like that, as its only women that do it... either way, I couldn't be bothered to be upset about it.
a) Female attention is never unwanted
b) I realise that i'm dressed against the norm, so I can expect odd reactions
You could go on about privacy, decency, manners, etc... but, to quote myself, "Morality Is Subjective".
My 2c....
I don't mind the unwanted advance at all, specially if she was a beauty. Only one knows where her action may take us later in the night.
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30th August 07, 10:03 PM
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 Originally Posted by Casper
Hear, hear!
I find it odd... all of the times people here get incredibly mad when someone either asks the question, or performs an impromptu check. All of the talk of rude comments to people, or popping them in the nose, just baffles me.
I'm fine with either... question, or kilt check. Maybe i'm just a bit of a manwhore like that, as its only women that do it... either way, I couldn't be bothered to be upset about it.
a) Female attention is never unwanted
b) I realise that i'm dressed against the norm, so I can expect odd reactions
You could go on about privacy, decency, manners, etc... but, to quote myself, "Morality Is Subjective".
My 2c....
Hear Hear as well!
While I would like to admit that I'd do a "proper" thing like exclaim, "Young lady, how dare you lift my kilt! That is inappropriate and I feel violated!" I probably wouldn't. Especially if I imbibed copious amounts of alcohol. You see, I am descended from a very long line of Irish rakes, libertines if you will, and don't balk often at female attention!
In all seriousness...a kilt is a garment which attracts attention. When one is in bar, one is surrounded by people whose inhibitions are down and are likely to behave in a manner that some would describe as forward.
The best advice is to deal with things in stages. Laugh it of if possible, be firm if it escalates, or leave if it goes beyond that.
*giggle* *burp* or get her number!
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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31st August 07, 12:53 PM
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31st August 07, 12:59 PM
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30th August 07, 12:39 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by morrison
I'm probably extraverted and controverted and  reverted and perverted and downright demented, but sometimes I'll take all the attention I can get! 
One man's dream is another man's night-mare...
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30th August 07, 12:30 PM
#6
Well here's where I land on this... as if it really matters...
A guy would definitely get popped... That's just completely unwarranted and very unwanted, at least by me. It's completely unacceptable and it does deserve retaliation.
A gal? Well, I tend not to hang out in places that this would be encouraged or acceptable behavior because I'm married and I respect that bond and commitment. Were to happen any way I don't know that I would be angry, but I would definitely be speechless and would feel a good deal violated as I'm a fairly private person... Yes I am an extrovert and "rebellious" according to some standards, but I still maintain a distinct separation between my outer facade and my private life. Of course, knowing me, what I'd probably end up doing to teach the woman would be to respond in kind... I'd take my slap and, were the wife around, call my buddy Frank and let him know I'm staying over for a while... I'm a fairly quid pro quo kind of guy... and a slap or punch just wouldn't teach a woman what she really needed to know in that situation, and I've only ever hit one woman as that was just the way I was raised (the one situation was actually self defense) And yes, I'd probably return the favor to an elderly nun too... Hey, she started it, and I'm sure she could use a pat on the butt!
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30th August 07, 01:12 PM
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A lot of talk of violence here. Are we really going to spend time discussing hitting women (or men, for that matter) when walking away is still an option?
For all the remarks about kilt lifting and kilt checking that occurs in this forum, it's pretty hypocritical to get that upset when it actually happens.
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30th August 07, 04:16 PM
#8
There's a big difference between laughingly teasing about what's under there...a difference between a little tug to the pleats, and a quick peek at a guys tush...
....and a full on, single-handed r double-handed thrust and grope to the genitals with conscious intent to humiliate and invade.
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30th August 07, 04:17 PM
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But you know, for how often this happens....meaning almost never...and with the multiplicity of ways to discourage and avoid and defuse such an encounter before it ever happens, I think there's been enough talk on the subject, and I'm leaving it to contribute elsewhere.
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31st August 07, 06:17 PM
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It doesn't matter which gender kilt-checks me. In the military, a kilt check of a regimentally-dressed kilted officer, results in a round of drinks for everyone in the room/bar, and I'm always regimental. That usually shuts up the offending person. If the kilted officer is wearing anything under his kilt, he buys the round of drinks.
"Gentlemen! This round of drinks is on So-and-so for their kilt-check curiosity." That also, satisfies all others in the bar/room as to what you're wearing under your kilt.
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