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24th February 08, 11:56 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by BoldHighlander
That I think would be correct (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).
After all in the later, though you had clans on both sides, it was essentially a rebellion/rebellions against the ruling government & it's forces, not mere clan -vs- clan only.
I've seen the Battle of Mulroy represented many times as the last clan vs. clan battle, correctly, I think. In fact, there were government troops supporting the Mackintoshes, as the action against the MacDonalds of Keppoch had official support. It didn't help the Mackintoshes, however.
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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24th February 08, 12:02 PM
#12
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by BoldHighlander
Indeed I would if you wouldn't mind ![Very Happy](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Just as you replied I found this page:
http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.u...roy/index.html
With a photo of the cairn & this info:
"Glen Roy has one more claim to fame. A stone cairn half a mile north of Roybridge remembers the nearby site of the Battle of Mulroy. This took place on 4 August 1688 and was the last inter-clan battle fought in Scotland. The memorial notes that the MacDonells of Keppoch defeated the Mackintoshes."
If at all possible I'd love to see a close-up, of sorts, of the plaque upon the cairn.
Thanks again!
When I have remembered how to post pictures, I will post some pictures for you in the picture section--watch this space,but don't hold your breath!The MacDonells of Keppoch were a warlike bunch and came to he fore again in 1745 in the first action of the revolution at High Bridge,only 4 miles or so from the battle of Mulroy.Picture will also be enclosed.
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24th February 08, 12:06 PM
#13
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Macman
I've seen the Battle of Mulroy represented many times as the last clan vs. clan battle, correctly, I think. In fact, there were government troops supporting the Mackintoshes, as the action against the MacDonalds of Keppoch had official support. It didn't help the Mackintoshes, however. ![Sad](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
As I understand it one of the reasons the MacKintoshes lost the battle was that the government troops did not arrive in time!So clan v clan is accurate.
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24th February 08, 05:20 PM
#14
The Battle of Mulroy - 4th August 1688
Hello everyone,
I was skimming through my copy of Peter Simpson's "The Independent Companies 1603 - 1760" and found the following regarding the Battle of Mulroy:
"Meantime, Captain Kenneth Mackenzie was called upon to help the Mackintoshes and their followers the Mac Gillivrays who were given a commission of fire and sword by the Privy Council against Macdonnell of Keppoch, This commission allowed:
'That whatever slaughter, mutilation, blood, fire-raising or other violence' may be done by the persons holding the letters, shall be held 'laudable, good and warrantable service to his Majesty and Government.'
This was to be the last great clan battle, at Mulroy on 4th August 1688, where the Macdonnells were victorious and where Suddie and many of his men had been outnumbered by Keppoch and two of his neighbouring clans, the Camerons of Glen Nevis and the Macmartins of Letterfinlay.
They launched a fierce Highland charge with swords and Lochaber axes -- Suddie was mortally wounded in the affray.*
A soldier in Suddie's company, Donald McBane subsequently wrote:
'The Macdonalds (Macdonells) came down the hill upon us, without either shoe, stocking or bonnet on their heads: they gave a shout and then fire began on both sides and continued a hot dispute for an hour. Then they broke in upon us with sword and target, and Lochaber axes which obliged us to give way."
This was a very matter-of-fact description of what must have been a particularly bloody encounter. In the same vein, Keppoch later described the battle of Mulroy 'the unhappie accident I had with McKintoshe at Millroy.'
*Kenneth Mackenzie of Suddie was a descendant of Kenneth of Battle (blar-na-pairc) and had served in Dumbarton's regiment in France and was described as having 'the character of a fine gentleman and brave officer.'
He was a professional soldier of the highest calibre."
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24th February 08, 05:36 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jock Scot
When I have remembered how to post pictures, I will post some pictures for you in the picture section--watch this space,but don't hold your breath!The MacDonells of Keppoch were a warlike bunch and came to he fore again in 1745 in the first action of the revolution at High Bridge,only 4 miles or so from the battle of Mulroy.Picture will also be enclosed.
Thanks Jock Scot, I greatly appreciate it ![Very Happy](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Indeed, I have been running across a number of mentions of the Macdonells of Keppoch through out "The Independent Companies 1603 - 1760" by Peter Simpson.
In one chapter where there is discussion about the early Independent Companies (1603 - 1660) and lawlessness in the Highlands, and some rather infamous characters: e.g. Black John (Iain Dubh Cearr), James Grant of Carron, etc; it mentions the following:
Apart from the famous individual robbers already mentioned, there existed a clan dimension in that three main clans, Camerons, Macdonalds of Keppoch and the Macdonalds of Glencoe not only sheltered the caterans but were notorious for raiding in their own right."
Seems those Macdonells of Keppoch were a troublesome crew, eh?
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25th February 08, 09:20 AM
#16
Thank you so much for posting this! I too trace back to the MacRanalds. Specifically a "John MacRanald born in the area of Keppoch."
He later relocated to Tyrone County in Ireland, and eventually the line merged with Moran line.
I'm going to follow up on some of those links - and I'll be looking for that book!
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25th February 08, 09:28 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Streetcar
Thank you so much for posting this! I too trace back to the MacRanalds. Specifically a "John MacRanald born in the area of Keppoch."
He later relocated to Tyrone County in Ireland, and eventually the line merged with Moran line.
I'm going to follow up on some of those links - and I'll be looking for that book!
If your MacRanalds look anything like this then we are cousins indeed (following from my linage):
1. Johne McReynolds (MacRanald /MacRannald)
b 1639 (Of Keppoch Area, Scotland) d ?
married ? (Scotland)
Catherine McIlstalker b 1643 (Scotland) d ?
Child of Johne McReynolds & Catherine McIlstalker :
John McReynolds b 1665
2. John McReynolds b 1665 (Keppoch, Highlands of, Scotland)
d 1760 (Stewartstown, Tyrone, Ireland)
married June 18, 1714 (Dungannon/clrmnt, Tyrone, Ireland)
Elizabeth Shepherd b Abt 1675 (Tyrone County, Ireland)
d Aft 1744 (PA)
Child of John McReynolds & Elizabeth Shepherd :
Joseph McReynolds b 1720
3. Joseph McReynolds b 1720 (Killyman, Dungannon Co., Tyrone, Ireland)
d 1805 (Sequatchie Val’y, Bledsoe, TN)
married Grange, Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Sarah Dixon b 1736 (Tyrone County, Ireland)
d (95 years) before 1796 (Campbell County, VA)
Child of Joseph McReynolds & Sarah Dixon :
Roland McReynolds b 1739
I'll stop there, if you need more I'll PM you.
My line eventually merged with my Scobee line.
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Since posting the above linage I have found there was a mistake in the original info, which I'm correcting here:
(corrections & additions in red).
1. Johne McReynolds (MacRanald /MacRannald)
b. 1639 (Of Keppoch Area, Scotland)
d. ?
married ? (Scotland)
Catherine McIlstalker b. 1643 (Scotland) d. ?
Child of Johne McReynolds & Catherine McIlstalker:
John(e) McReynolds b. 1665
2. John (e) McReynolds /MacRanalds b. 1665 (Keppoch, Highlands of, Scotland)
d. 1760 (Stewartstown, Tyrone, Ireland)
married June 18, 1714 (Dungannon/clrmnt, Tyrone, Ireland)
Elizabeth Shepherd b. Abt 1675 (Tyrone County, Ireland)
d. After 1744 (PA)
Child of John[e] McReynolds & Elizabeth Shepherd :
Joseph McReynolds b. 1715
3. Joseph McReynolds b. 1715 (Killyman, Dungannon Co., Tyrone, Ireland)
d. 1805 (Sequatchie Valley, Bledsoe, TN)
married Grange, Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Sarah Dixon b. 1736 (Tyrone County, Ireland)
d. (95 years) before 1796 (Campbell County, VA)
Child of Joseph McReynolds & Sarah Dixon :
Robert McReynolds b. 1738
4. Robert McReynolds b. 1738 on board the ship "Elizabeth" upon the Atlantic Ocean
d. 1814 (Reeds Valley, Russell, VA)
married January 26, 1760 (Chester County, PA)
Martha Rich b December 27, 1742 (West Nottingham, Cecil, MD)
d. 1812 /1813 (Abingdon, Washington, VA)
Child of Robert McReynolds & Martha Rich :
Joseph McReynolds b. Oct. 5, 1760
5. Joseph McReynolds b. Oct. 5, 1760 (Orange County, NC)
d. April 14, 1838 (Reeds Valley, Russell, VA)
married April 11, 1783 (Ashe or Orange County, NC)
Rebecca Boren b. March 11, 1766 (Orange County, NC)
d. September 11, 1853 (Reeds Valley, Russell, VA)
Child of Joseph McReynolds & Rebecca Boren :
Martha /Mattey McReynolds b. Abt 1793
6. Martha or Mattey McReynolds b. Abt 1793 Russell County, Virginia)
d. ? (IL or MacCamerTwp, Marco, IN)
married Truelove Brown b. 1789/1795 (Russell County, Virginia) d. ?
Child of Martha /Mattey McReynolds & Truelove Brown :
Joseph M. (Truelove) Brown b. Oct. 16, 1816
Last edited by BoldHighlander; 9th September 09 at 11:00 PM.
Reason: Updated w/ New Genealogical Information
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25th February 08, 10:24 AM
#18
Battle of Mulroy Pictures
Streetcar,
if you haven't done so yet, be sure to go check out this thread:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/m...922/index.html
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25th February 08, 11:19 AM
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I did see that thread. Wonderful photos!
I'll dig out my own timelines tonight and try to get them posted tomorrow.
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25th February 08, 04:00 PM
#20
The Battle of Mulroy - more details found
I found the following details on the battle at Wikipedia. I posted it with the photos of the same name as this thread, but felt since we had discussed the battle here too that it would be a fit ![Wink](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Battle of Mulroy:
The Battle of Mulroy was fought in August 1688 in the Lochaber district of Scotland between the Chattan Confederation led by the Clan MacKintosh against the Clan MacDonald of Keppoch and the Clan Cameron. [1]
It is sometimes described as the last of the private battles between clans of the kind fought in the Highlands in ages past; but the Mackintoshes had official support for their actions against the Macdonalds, and their army was in part made up of government troops.
The encounter at Mulroy is notable for one other reason: it was the prototype for Dundee's victory at Killiecrankie the following summer.
Clan Donald of Lochaber
For centuries the Macdonalds of Keppoch had maintained their hold in Lochaber, despite the best efforts of the Mackintosh landlords. For much of the time there was an uneasy stalemate between the two parties. This ended in the 1670s when Lachlan Mackintosh of Torcastle decided to press the ancient claim with considerably more vigour. In 1681 the Scottish Privy Council granted him a Commission of fire and sword against Archibald MacDonald, then leader of the Keppoch clan, allowing him to take extra-judicial action. The issue, however, remained unsettled at the time of Archibald's death in 1682. He was succeeded by his son, Coll, fifthteenth chief of Keppoch.
Coll had been a student at St. Andrews University at the time of his father's death; and far from being the Highland terror he subsequently became, he came down with the educated man's belief that the matter could be solved by peaceful means. On the advice of the Marquess of Huntly, he came with some of his clan gentry to Inverness to meet Lachlan with the offer to pay increased rent in return for a legal charter. With incredible lack of sensitivity, the Mackintosh chief had him thrown into prison, a mistake for which he was to pay a high price. Coll did not spend long in captivity, but his pride had been badly wounded, leaving him with a deep sense of resentment against Mackintosh and Inverness.
Lachlan continued in his campaign to have the awkward squatters removed from Lochaber. In the summer of 1684 he petitioned the Privy Council, saying that "by mere force and bangistry, the Macdonnels had possessed part of his country this 100 years and more, tho he hes interrupted then alwayes and gotten all that the lawes could give him; yet they still despised all." But the government was too preoccupied at the time with the threatened invasion of the rebel Earl of Argyll to offer much practical assistance. Four years later it was in a more accommodating mood.
In 1688, During the latter part of the reign of James VII, Mackintosh's commission of fire and sword was renewed. This time there was one major difference: he was to be aided by Captain Kenneth Mackenzie of Suddie, commanding a company of regular troops based at Inverness. With probably as many government soldiers as clansmen Lachlan marched unopposed into Lochaber in late July. Coll had only 200 fighting men, not nearly enough to counter the invasion. Instead he withdrew into the hills and called on the aid of his neighbours and kin. In response the men of Glengarry, Glencoe, as well as the Macmartins, a sept of Clan Cameron, joined him on 4 August.
Moal Ruadh:
With 800 men Coll was still half as strong as his enemy. He made up for this by placing his army on Moal Ruadh, the hill overlooking Keppoch to the north-east. Mackintosh and Suddie made the mistake of advancing up to meet him, setting the scene for one of the great Highland charges. Serving in Suddie's company was one Donald MacBane, formerly a tobacco spinner in Inverness. Years later he wrote of his experience as a soldier in a vivid and unintentionally humorous manner. This is what he records of the Battle of Mulroy;
The two clans was both on Foot and our Companie was still with McIntosh, who marched towards McDonald and his Clan, until we came in sight of them, (which made me wish I had been spinning tobacco). McIntosh sent one of his friends to McDonald to treat with him, and see if he would come to reasonable terms, McDonald directly denyed, but would fight it be the event as it would: Then both parties ordered their men to march up the hill, a company being in the front, we drew up in line of battle as we could, our company being on the right: we were no sooner in order, but there appears double our number of the McDonalds, which made us then fear the worst, at least for my part, I repeated my former wish, (I never having seen the like). The McDonalds came down the hill upon us without either shoe, stocking, or bonnet on their head, they gave a shout, and then the fire began on both sides, and continued a hot dispute for an hour; then they brok in upon us with sword and target, and Lochaber axes, which obliged us to give way, seeing my captain sore wounded, and a great many more with heads lying cloven on every side, I was sadly affrighted, never having seen the like before, a Highlander attacked me with sword and targe, and cut mt wouden handled bayonet out of the muzel of my gun; I then clubbed my gun and gave him a stroke with it, which made the butt-end to fly off; seeing the Highland men to come fast upon me, I took to my heels and run thirty miles before I looked behind me, every person I saw or met, I took for my enemy...
Suddie was mortally wounded, dying later at Inverness. Many more were killed and many taken captive, Lachalan Mackintosh among them. He was later said to have been rescued by his friends, although it seems just as likely that Coll, embarrassed by his presence in Lochaber, allowed him to be rescued. Coll was later to express regret over his encounter with Mackintosh, describing it as an unhappy accident, but at the time it greatly enhanced his prestige among his kin. The pibroch Blar na Maoile Ruaidh-the Battle of Mulroy- was composed in celebration.
Fire and Sword:
Mulroy is often described as the last private clan battle. It was, however, no more a private matter than the clash between the Campbells and Camerons in the dying stages of the Battle of Culloden. If it had been a private affair the government is unlikely to have reacted with such anger. As far as the Privy Council was concerned, government soldiers had come under attack, and their commander had been killed. Before the end of the month dragoons and infantry were ordered into Lochaber, reputedly with orders to "destroy man, woman and child pertaining to the laird of Cappagh, and burn houses and corn."
Coll sensibly released his remaining prisoners and took to the hills, not willing to risk the further displeasure another fight with the royal army would bring on his house. Under the command of Captain John Crichton, the soldiers remained in the area to 10 September, burning crops and houses. They were then called back south as a great political crisis was beginning to overtake King James.
There is no evidence that Crichton and his men murdered women and children; but the suggestion that they might provides and interesting light on Lowland thinking towards Highland communities. A few years before during the rebellion of the Earl of Argyll, the government, in a state of panic, ordered that all who joined the Campbell chief should be killed or disabled, so that they would never be able to fight again. Women and children were to be transported to the remote Isles. Earlier still James V had ordered the destruction of Clan Chattan, and James VI had given permission for the wholesale extermination of the Macleods of Lewis. After the Restoration unrepentant Covenanters had caused repeated problems for the authorities in south-west Scotland, but there was never any suggestion that whole communities should be wiped out. Highlanders, even Campbells, could be perceived as savages and thus treated in a savage way. This was a shadow that was soon to fall on the people of Glencoe.
References:
Barron, E. M., Inverness and the Macdonalds, 1930.
Fountainhall Historical Notices, 1661-1683, 1848.
Hopkins, P., Glencoe and the End of the Highland War, 1986.
McBane, D. The Expert Sword-Mans Companion, 1728.
The Register of the Privy Council of Scotland, variously edited, 1877-1933.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mulroy
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