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    I'd do a dress shirt and tie at the very least. Look at the pictures in the "dressy" but not "casual" or "formal" pictures thread. If the 'goal' look is polo and dockers, then ramp it up a notch with the kilt. And I'd make it a point to check in with the instructor.

    I'd go in with a "I do have something to change into, but it's not half as nice as what I'm wearing....."

    But whatever you do, don't blow your grade point over this. At least you can wear your kilt on a "non presentation" class day.

    Edit - was typing when you posted - GMTA!

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    I agree with McMurdo, either go all out and look your best, or humor the teacher and wear the pants. In a real-world court situation you would be expected to look your best (which doesn't of course mean tuxedo) wearing a suit and tie would be generally acceptable. What you are wearing in your picture is, IMHO, fine for everyday wear, but not quite good enough for a court appearance. Just me 2 cents worth, take it for what it's worth. BTW good luck in your class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwr89 View Post
    Ok, thanks! I will wear a tartan and my argyle tweed jacket. I don't have a vest but I do have a nice tie.
    I'll have the p@^+$ as a back up though.

    thanks!
    Sounds like a good plan to me.
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    Here Are My Thoughts. As Mentioned Earlier Perception And Stability. These Are Good Points. My Thoughts Are These: In The World We Live Today. Were Fuel Costs Are Rising, Fathers Lock There Daughters In Basements For 24 Years, War, And Natural Disasters Are Everywere. Not To Mention The Us Economy. I Would Say That Stability Is More Of An Idea And Mindset Rather Than A Situation We Find Ourselves In. (though I Do Like Stability When It Can Be Found) I Agree With Most Others On This Thread. Wear The Tartan, Jacket, And Be Respectful Of The Court Setting. We Only Have One Shot At Life We Will All Make Mistakes Along The Way, But I Think Wearing The Kilt And Being Yourself Is A Priority. Only You Can Decide!

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    School isn't a democracy, any more than the work place is. If your boss tells you not to do something, don't do it. Same applies to teachers. Generally teenage defiance is interpreted as immaturity, and that can have a negative affect on your academic career.

    As far as the burka argument goes, it doesn't go anywhere. The circumstances are totally different: You are neither an exchange student nor does your religion require you to wear a kilt.

    As far as suggestions that you organize a meeting of the school officials and the teacher to plead your case, do you really think they'd take you seriously? You might just end up getting the kilt banned from the classroom as "distracting".

    The corollary of "Screw him" is "You get screwed" and I doubt the "letter writing campaign" would produce any effect (other than a lot of laughs in the staff lounge).

    Bite the bullet, wear the pants, and count the days to graduation.

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    Casey,
    I am aware of your plight. Back in the dark ages of education, schools had dress codes and UNIFORMS. Elementary school through junior high school mandated a uniform for boys of black socks, highly polished black shoes, tighty whities, tan chinos, white crew neck T-shirt, light blue dress shirt, necktie in the school plaid, dark blue sport coat, hair trimmed to no more than 1/2 inch. If gloves were worn they must be white, and overcoats were required to be a tan coloured "trench" style. For physical education you had to change into another very specific uniform. This was in a public school system. This uniform code was enforced. The school department changed the dress code for the high school during my sophomore year. I went to school kilted immediately. The superintendent of schools it turned out was born in Scotland, heard of my kilted appearance in Argyle formal dress. The principal was not pleased with me and was starting the discipline routine when the superintendent visited. The superintendent told the principal I was the best dressed student on campus, and asked what the discipline was about. The principal changed his mind. I stayed kilted most of the time, bringing a pair of 501's for outdoor project days, as I did not want to mess up my very expensive tank. I got plenty of grief about my "skirt" from my classmates during the rest of my sophomore year. The opening day of my junior year was rewarded by the superintendent delivering the opening day speech kilted in full PC. At that time I only knew of the Scot connection on my mother's side of the family (Clan MacNeil of Barra). Superintendent MacNeill was also wearing MacNeil of Barra ancient tartan that day. Never got the "skirt" grief after that. I now know the lineage of my father's side of the family to Clan Lamont.
    Just as participating in the school theatre group meant wearing a costume on stage, I wore the tan chinos when I was expected to show a positive example in class for an event.
    The females in class were always amazed at how fast I could get the trousers on while kilted, then remove the kilt and get the sporran strap through my belt loops, and be ready to go, without any "wardrobe malfunction."
    Be grateful for the privilege of being kilted most of the time. Put the costume on for the stage show, and change back when the play is over.
    That is my two cents on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGELMAN View Post
    Here Are My Thoughts. As Mentioned Earlier Perception And Stability. These Are Good Points. My Thoughts Are These: In The World We Live Today. Were Fuel Costs Are Rising, Fathers Lock There Daughters In Basements For 24 Years, War, And Natural Disasters Are Everywere. Not To Mention The Us Economy. I Would Say That Stability Is More Of An Idea And Mindset Rather Than A Situation We Find Ourselves In. (though I Do Like Stability When It Can Be Found) I Agree With Most Others On This Thread. Wear The Tartan, Jacket, And Be Respectful Of The Court Setting. We Only Have One Shot At Life We Will All Make Mistakes Along The Way, But I Think Wearing The Kilt And Being Yourself Is A Priority. Only You Can Decide!
    First of all, what's with the Capitalizing Every Word? Secondly, stability can most definitely be a situation. I'm a very stable person. Just because you list a few current events doesn't mean stability is a farce. There have always been crazy current events that made the world seem like a crazy place, but really the world has a tendency to stabilize itself.

    Also, I disagree with "wearing a kilt" being a priority, but "being yourself" is definitely a priority. Wearing a kilt is fun and holds a lot of significance to all of us, but being true to yourself is definitely more important. If following the teacher's orders and doing what you're told is who you are, then he should wear pants. But I feel like he challenges social norms. I feel like he doesn't blindly accept authority. I feel like he has the urge to shake things up, just like I do, and THAT is why he should wear his kilt. To shove people out of their comfort zone and SHOW them that not everything is black and white and that people will be themselves, whatever "themselves" is.

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    As a lawyer, you can bet your buttocks you wouldn't be wearing a kilt in the courtroom. like it or not, there is a very good chance that the jury would take you LESS seriously.
    as a member of the jury (or called to be impanelled) you can bet too that you'd probably be dismissed by one of the lawyers. Like it or not, wearing a kilt is seen by the general establishment as being a bit odd. lawyers don't want to bet their case on someone which the establishment thinks is 'a bit odd'. In some cases, one side might find that desirable, which makes it a darn sure thing that the other lawyer is going to dismiss.

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    In real life you might likely be struck from the jury, that is, not selected. There are 2 ways that that could happen. You could be struck because you could not be---or appeared not to be able to-- able to render an impartial and fair verdict, due to thiings such as already having made up your mind about the case from reading about it in the newspapers, being related to or a friend of one of the parties or their attorneys, etc. The judge would strike you.

    The second way would be to be struck by one of the attorneys, and that might be what would be likely to happen. Attorneys can have a limited number of strike they can use for almost any reason under the sun. And they tend to use them, if they have enough, to weed out those whose views they can't predict, especially those whose views might be unfavorable to their client or favorable to the opposing side. A man wearing a kilt might well be thought unpredictable. Of course, if one of the parties was wearing a kilt, had a Scots last name, or the matter involved kilts, or something similar, it might be a different story.

    In other words, what a trial attorney has to do based on little information and in a very short time, quickly make an important decision. Few like to take more risks than they have to.

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    Dude, I know you jsut want to wear the kilt in spite of what your teacher, just to show him, but you can't it's going to cost you. It feels so right don't it, but you have to do what the superiors say........wait, what am I saying?? Wear it, wear the kilt!!!!!! Wear it with pride! But what about his grade average, precious? Screw the grade average!!!

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