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27th December 08, 02:22 PM
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The only time I ever saw short-sleeved dress shirts as acceptable corporate dress was one summer when I interned at a marketing agency in Phoenix. I attended a pitch for a huge promotional campaign at (I think) Colgate Palmolive. All the guys who came into the presentation were wearing gray, black and blue suits. When they took off their jackets, they all had white short-sleeved dress shirts. I asked a guy I was working with what was up, and he said that the short sleeves were the one concession corporate America was willing to make thanks to the temperatures in Phx being 115-120 during the summer.
As much as short-sleeves give me the yips, that's the one time it sounds about right.
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27th December 08, 04:12 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I am a long sleeve chap. In my neck of the woods, I like the option of rolling my sleeves up for the odd hour of sun and rolling them down when the inevitable rain arrives or when the midgies attack.
I have to agree with Jock Scot. I prefer long sleeves, it allows options.
However, since most of my style is military based, I say a SS shirt could be worn, however only without a tie.
That said, Ted Crocker and his avatar prove me wrong......
I also work in a machine shop and long sleeves and/or tie would be just begging to get wrapped up in a machine. I am, however, still a professional and try to dress accordingly. I usually have only polo shirts as an option, short sleeved, but still with a collar. And they don't cost as much to replace when I get a "lathe stripes" going up my left arm/chest. I suppose I could wear a clip-on tie, roll up the sleeves and wear a 3/4 sleeve lab coat/machinists' coat. But, again, this is Phoenix.....and you know who lives VERY close to here....
T.
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28th December 08, 09:19 AM
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short sleeves & Phoenix
 Originally Posted by Phogfan86
The only time I ever saw short-sleeved dress shirts as acceptable corporate dress was one summer when I interned at a marketing agency in Phoenix. I attended a pitch for a huge promotional campaign at (I think) Colgate Palmolive. All the guys who came into the presentation were wearing gray, black and blue suits. When they took off their jackets, they all had white short-sleeved dress shirts. I asked a guy I was working with what was up, and he said that the short sleeves were the one concession corporate America was willing to make thanks to the temperatures in Phx being 115-120 during the summer.
As much as short-sleeves give me the yips, that's the one time it sounds about right.
As a long time resident of Phoenix, and a veteran of Corporate America I can attest to this. In fact the City of Phoenix government has a summer dress code that dispenses with many items if attire (jackets, long sleeves, ties, and yes for you ladies- no panty hose). But then, these summer temperatures are not the norm for most of the world.
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28th December 08, 02:02 PM
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I would never dream of wearing a short sleeve shirt with a jacket, a waistcoat, or a tie. Also, most of my short sleeve shirts are either polos or have button down collars. No tie with those.
I live in an area where summer temperatures are frequently over 100F. If I'm going somewhere dressy (not formal) during the summer, I'll skip the jacket and go in a proper shirt and a tie.
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27th December 08, 02:35 PM
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My fourth grade teacher, Mr. Barnham, wore white permanent-press, short-sleeve shirts and a solid dark tie. He had very hairy arms.
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27th December 08, 02:52 PM
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* Picture removed. *
Should I remove this picture from the gallery too?
I didn't have a long sleeve shirt with me at the time.
And yes, out here in the Phoenix area, people do wear these kind of shirts with a blazer in the summer.
Last edited by Bugbear; 27th December 08 at 07:50 PM.
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27th December 08, 03:55 PM
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As I age and get more and more crusty and curmudgeonly, I find that I rarely wear an oxford shirt with short sleves. I have a few, but I don't know that I ever donned one all last summer.
I, too, have come to think that gentlemen's shirts should be long sleeved whether down or rolled. Otherwise, you should have a nerd pouch and a clip-on tie. (See above.) Mine usually had a mechanical pencil, a fine tipped pen, a 6" metal scale, and other items of use on the shop floor. Add a slide rule, and well--I'll explain what a slide rule is to you younger fellows later. Think of it as a caveman's version of a calculator. (Calculators weren't yet invented when I was in college.)
The short sleeved shirts I wear are all polo styled. I don't even wear tee shirts any more, mainly because, having lost my once beautiful body, I need that fluffy look that only a loose oxford will afford. (For those of you who care, you can find my theme song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6m_Fq6dsIo
Anyway, never wear a jacket with a short-sleeve shirt. It just shouts "tacky." (I hope no one takes humbrage at this. My opninions are of little value, and they are never very important.)
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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27th December 08, 07:57 PM
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 Originally Posted by thescot
I, too, have come to think that gentlemen's shirts should be long sleeved whether down or rolled. Otherwise, you should have a nerd pouch and a clip-on tie.
One must dress in the corporate culture one feed from, sadly I must admit!
 Originally Posted by thescot
. . . Add a slide rule, and well--I'll explain what a slide rule is to you younger fellows later. Think of it as a caveman's version of a calculator. (Calculators weren't yet invented when I was in college.)
I was teaching in college when the first hand-held calculators came out!
 Originally Posted by thescot
Anyway, never wear a jacket with a short-sleeve shirt. It just shouts "tacky." (I hope no one takes humbrage at this. My opninions are of little value, and they are never very important.)
My feelings exactly!
The pipes are calling, resistance is futile. - MacTalla Mor
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27th December 08, 03:58 PM
#9
P. S. Except for you, Ted. You look quite stunning in that photo.
I suppose short sleve shirts should be the perogative of anyone in a desert clime.
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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27th December 08, 04:18 PM
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That's my Scottish school boy outfit. Thanks for reminding me it is also my avatar; I might have to go back to being Bernard the mouse.
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Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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