More measuring... again and "professional" appearance

[ForresterModern]

Here is my Black Isle tank where the tartan pattern is subtly perceptible in the sunlight.



Looks great with anything in the black, charcoal, grey or white palette.

[yoippari]

Most of my dress shirts are blue and I just wear a black or an orphaned charcoal suit vest over them which I will probably continue to do with any kilt that I can get by my managers. I'll probably go shopping there once on a day off kilted. Probably would be a good time to bring it up with the manager(s).

What would you do to top off a professional kilted look? Basically the rule is that the top layer is black. While a black dress shirt is appropriate I really dislike the black on black on black look. I do have some ghillie brogues that I wear as wingtips so I'll definitely wear those.

[Bugbear]

I had a job with the city of phoenix, part of which was working for one department as an inturn in another department. In other words, I had two bosses at the same time and the same job, and they had two different dress codes.

The two bosses sent me away while they talked it over, and I ended up wearing the black trousers required by one department, and the shirt required by the other department; the name of the department had to be on the shirt in a certain place etc...


It was very stressful...

[lethearen]

Here is my Black Isle tank where the tartan pattern is subtly perceptible in the sunlight.



Looks great with anything in the black, charcoal, grey or white palette.

Great looking kilt there, and I'd say would be one of the most fashionable ways to do the black-on-black scheme.

But as for the dress code itself... you might run into flak for a kilt if the code specifically says "pants". I'd wager a lot of dress codes assume men will be wearing pants and don't bother mentioning it; thus, you'd be able to slip through the holes in the wording. Mine's like that - it says no jeans or shorts or t-shirts for men, but that's about it.

But if the code explicitly says pants, you may have less ground to stand on. If women are allowed the wear skirts in the code, then maybe you have a quasi-discrimination foothold, but even then I don't know how firm it'd be.

[yoippari]

The dress code is already discriminatory. Women get away with T-shirts under a cheap black cardigan. Whether in writing or in practice women get away with enough that when my mom has shopped there it is a little difficult for her to spot a female sales associate. On the other hand all the men are in dress shirt, slacks, tie, and vest at least.

This is just something I need to try and sell to the manager slowly. It probably won't happen but I at least need to try.

[Leprechaun 91]

The dress code is already discriminatory. Women get away with T-shirts under a cheap black cardigan. Whether in writing or in practice women get away with enough that when my mom has shopped there it is a little difficult for her to spot a female sales associate. On the other hand all the men are in dress shirt, slacks, tie, and vest at least.

This is just something I need to try and sell to the manager slowly. It probably won't happen but I at least need to try.

I work at J.C. Penney's In the southeast. For the record, Macy's also requires the Black on Black theme here as well. I had better luck while working for Dillard's when it cam to wearing a Kilt to work. They are a smaller, family - owned business. (still with several hundred stores.)

I am only allowed to go kilted to work these days on special occasions. We have a couple international luncheons each year for the associates. I always go kilted then. I will not go kilted on Halloween as It is not a costume for me.

I do agree that most dress codes are biased toward more freedom for women. What is considered "professional" or "business casual" for women is certainly more broadly defined for women than men. Is this "fair" No, but is tis what it is. It is possible at times however to use the female dress code as a template for what you are after in wearing the kilt. If the length is acceptable for women at work, then it should be for your kilt. If prints are allowed, then tartan may be allowed. If black is requited, then your question has been answered.

Whatever you do, make it "professional" and keep it as close to traditional as you can so that they can not accuse you as trying to be "punk." Good luck.

[yoippari]

I work at J.C. Penney's In the southeast. For the record, Macy's also requires the Black on Black theme here as well. I had better luck while working for Dillard's when it cam to wearing a Kilt to work. They are a smaller, family - owned business. (still with several hundred stores.)

I am only allowed to go kilted to work these days on special occasions. We have a couple international luncheons each year for the associates. I always go kilted then. I will not go kilted on Halloween as It is not a costume for me.

Whatever you do, make it "professional" and keep it as close to traditional as you can so that they can not accuse you as trying to be "punk." Good luck.

As a district I think we are the only ones still with this requirement. Store managers might be at work here but our manager and his boss have both said that we are the only ones left but it hasn't been a priority to change the dress code. Oh ya, Florida also still does the black theme.

I agree with the kilt != costume statement and with keeping it professional. Dress shirt, tie, kilt hose, brogues or oxfords, and either a vest or jacket. But then again, that is my normal work wear, almost.

[TNKiltedWolf]

No one I believe, has mentioned 21st Century Kilts and their kilt suits. What about the possibilities of wearing a black version of those?



The chap on the right has a black one on (although it appears to have faint red pinstripes now that I get an inch from my monitor), and this seemingly would fit the black requirement, be made of suiting material, and present that professionalism they are shooting for at Macy's.

Just for thought.

Aaron