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17th April 09, 01:04 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Respect for tradition and custom is not particular to one nationality. While I agree 100% that the ultimate decision is up to the OP in this matter, and I certainly support whatever decision he makes, I fail to see why being an American citizen trumps respecting the customs and traditions of Highland attire.
My apologies for being such and "auld crabbit" about this.
Regards,
Todd
Well said sir!
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17th April 09, 02:38 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Technically you should wear your own tartan(as you have one) and your wife should also wear your tartan too, if she chooses to wear a tartan. Your wife and her family should understand that. However, you are in the USA and things seem a little more relaxed there.
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Respect for tradition and custom is not particular to one nationality. While I agree 100% that the ultimate decision is up to the OP in this matter, and I certainly support whatever decision he makes, I fail to see why being an American citizen trumps respecting the customs and traditions of Highland attire.
My apologies for being such and "auld crabbit" about this.
Regards,
Todd
Lots of "shoulds" being thrown around here. I sometimes think the insistence that one "should" only wear the tartan that bears your father's family's name is somewhat ironic, given that most Scots rent kilts when they have to wear one, and its highly unlikely to be in a family tartan. (And that assumes that one actually really knows for sure what clan, if any, they are descended from.) But hey, that's just me.
I guess my point is that to some people's way of thinking the OP "should" never wear that MacCrea kilt he owns, and in that case he "should" mail it to me. Assuming, as I do, that the OP feels differently since he owns the kilt, then the decision about which side of his family he chooses to honor when he dresses for the wedding becomes a personal one. (Like Spartan, I'd probably be influenced by which one looks better.)
The difference that the locale makes is that according to past posts by Jock, in some segments of his community one's choice of tartan can still be fraught with strong emotional significance, and can lead to hard feelings between family and friends. Here, to the contrary, the OP made clear that no one in attendance (besides possibly Grandma) would know or care about the difference between an Ancient Hunting MacCrea tartan and an Ancient MacEwan tartan.
Respectfully yours,
Jake
[B]Less talk, more monkey![/B]
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17th April 09, 02:49 PM
#13
MONKY@ARMS.
With the greatest of respect, I chose the word SHOULD very carefully as it implies, to me at least, a certain amount of option. I did not say MUST,now did I ?
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18th April 09, 04:45 AM
#14
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
MONKY@ARMS.
With the greatest of respect, I chose the word SHOULD very carefully as it implies, to me at least, a certain amount of option. I did not say MUST,now did I ? 
No, Jock, you didn't say must and I appreciate that. From this American's point of view, I am glad this forum affords me the opportunity to learn the traditional distinctions regarding Scottish attire even if they aren't strictly adhered to here, or as Monky@arms points out, always rigorously adhered to in Scotland. But I'm glad I now know it and when my children and grandchildren marry, I'll observe this distinction.
However, in a wider sense, I don't think it's a bad thing that Americans are prone to "interpret" the traditions of their forbears. I am sympathetic to Cajunscot's implied concern that Americans not feel license to "trump" traditions of Highland Attire, but I do not think a sense of "license" is what drives Americans to reinterpret tradition.
Regardless of our where our ancestral roots are, we are descendants of "those who left." Some left from a sense of adventure, opportunity, some were driven out or forced to leave in chains. Our immigrant ancestors came here, bearing their proud traditions, but landed here determined to remake their lives as best they could. Change is part of that package.
Most of us stateside with Scottish descent will have strong ties to other nationalities as well. For me, Dutch, German, English and, on my father's side, a recently discovered Rodriguez. And many who are drawn to wear the kilt have no Scottish ties at all. Our genes are woven of so many different strands, they probably resemble a tartan! So which "stripe" of that tartan we choose to honor may not be as clear cut as it is for others whose ancestry is of one clear rootstock.
I think the fact that so many Americans care to wear Scottish Attire, (whether they do it in a strictly observant way or not) is a testament to the compelling strength of Scottish traditions and character. And while some American "reinterpretation" might understandably cause you to wince, Jock, I don't think it's done as a gesture of disrespect, but rather arises from the nature of our complex cultural history.
By the way, thanks very much to those "traditionalists" on this forum who take the time to share you knowledge. I want to know these things. And although I may not always observes the traditions to the letter, when I depart from them it will be as a matter of choice not as a matter of ignorance.
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19th April 09, 02:47 PM
#15
You can't go wrong with making old ladies happy. 'Nuff said.
The Barry
"Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis;
voca me cum benedictis." -"Dies Irae" (Day of Wrath)
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19th April 09, 06:39 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by The Barry
You can't go wrong with making old ladies happy. 'Nuff said.
Little old ladies FTW.
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