Ties,regimental,university,college, club.

**UglyMike** · 19th August 09, 03:08 AM

In my humble American opinion I think you have it right on the money in your opening post. Americans tend to be much much less subtle in showing their pride when it comes to military service or alma mater. Personally I like the idea of the tie but usually here, when someone wishes to be subtle, you see them with a ring (class ring, military service ring etc...) The tie is one of those really cool cultural things that I'm sure most Americans never heard of (I know I hadn't until today).

Mike

**Sir William** · 19th August 09, 03:53 AM

Jock,

Couldn't agree more, except that American military units typially (there are exceptions) and sadly don't have an official tie, though many have an "Association" tie of sorts. We tend to wear various badges or pins to show our military service.

The Marine Corps doesn't have an "official" regimental tie, though there are plenty with our "cap badge" (the Eagle, Globe and Anchor) that can be had. One of the uniform tailors in Quantico Town once (and may still do so) sold a "regimental" green-based striped tie but I've only seen a handful of people wear one in the 30 years since I got mine. I recently saw a blue-based USMC regimental tie sold at the Pentagon - again, very unofficial.

That said, when I went to Scotland recently, I wore my Marine Corps Heritage Association tie and the blue-base tie mentioned above. The Heritage tie is more subtle than the typical USMC tie as it shows the early Marine Corps emblem (before the EGA) which is now displayed on the uniform buttons.

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 19th August 09, 04:51 AM

I'l just chime in to say that I also think regimental/club ties look great with the kilt, and for those who like the look but are not entitled to wear a particular design, it is possible to find ties in this style that are not affiliated with a particular regiment, school, etc.

For example, I found this tie in a menswear store while on vacation eariler this year, and the colors go splendidty with my kilt.

**macwilkin** · 19th August 09, 05:58 AM

Jock,

Believe it or not, there are some of Yanks that already knew about the regimental/club tie.

I frequently wear the tie of an organization I belong to, the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the USA, with my Highland attire, as one of my Scottish ancestors was an officer in an Iowa regiment during the Civil War.

I also have a tie for the Society of King Charles the Martyr and the Order of St. Vincent, two Anglican organizations I belong to.

I prefer the rosette to the metal lapel badge as a way to denote membership in a club/organization:

http://www.dexterrosettes.com/

Regards,

Todd

**Jock Scot** · 19th August 09, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

Jock,

Believe it or not, there are some of Yanks that already knew about the regimental/club tie.

I frequently wear the tie of an organization I belong to, the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the USA, with my Highland attire, as one of my Scottish ancestors was an officer in an Iowa regiment during the Civil War.

I also have a tie for the Society of King Charles the Martyr and the Order of St. Vincent, two Anglican organizations I belong to.

I prefer the rosette to the metal lapel badge as a way to denote membership in a club/organization:

http://www.dexterrosettes.com/

Regards,

Todd

Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.

Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rosette hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.

**macwilkin** · 19th August 09, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.

Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rostte hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.

Jock,

Apologies for my attempt at humour that failed.

I've seen a number of lapel badges from organisations in the UK; the C. of E. Verger's Guild, for example, offers one for its members. (Whether it is worn of course is another story!)

The rosette originated in France from the larger ones worn on medals, such as the Legion of Honour. MOLLUS, according to tradition, was the first US society to adopt one in the 1870s. I have seen a picture of President Benjamin Harrison, an ex-Union Army officer, wearing one during his Presidency.

T.

**Jock Scot** · 19th August 09, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

Jock,

Apologies for my attempt at humour that failed.

I've seen a number of lapel badges from organisations in the UK; the C. of E. Verger's Guild, for example, offers one for its members. (Whether it is worn of course is another story!)

The rosette originated in France from the larger ones worn on medals, such as the Legion of Honour. MOLLUS, according to tradition, was the first US society to adopt one in the 1870s. I have seen a picture of President Benjamin Harrison, an ex-Union Army officer, wearing one during his Presidency.

T.

Oh come on Todd! Your humour was noted ,hence the smiley

at the end of the sentance.

I don't venture into religeous circles,if I can help it,so I know nothing about the Guild of Vergers. The British Legion is the only lapel badge that I can think of at the moment.

I know a bit about the Legion d'Honneur as I have seen a discreet ribbon worn in one of my French relative's lapel botton hole.

**bricelythgoe** · 19th August 09, 06:37 AM

I have a quick question. I was told (particualarly by my wife) that stripes and plaid never go together. Now I know it is a TARTAN that we wear, but it is called plaid to many. Is that a problem at all?

I saw the picture earlier in the thread of someone wearing one and I thought it looked great. I wonder if I could fine one for my university.

**The Guy in the Kilt at UC** · 19th August 09, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.

Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rosette hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.

We use the lapel pin in the US. Here is a picture of my university pin.

It has recently become so much of a tradition that before our most recent election our current president was incessantly ridiculed for not wearing a lapel pin with our flag on it.