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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan09 View Post
    If you want to get really pernickity (is that how it’s spelt ?),

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    From Paul Brian's "Common Errors in English Usage":

    The original Scottish dialect form was “pernickety,” but Americans changed it to “persnickety” a century ago. “Pernickety” is generally unknown in the US though it’s still in wide use across the Atlantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan09 View Post
    If you want to get really pernickity (is that how it’s spelt ?), you could say that a glengarry or balmoral may only be seen as representing the descendants of the Hanoverian Crown if the black cockade (ie the silk rosette) is worn on its left side, as is the case with the RRS.
    Actually, outside of the military, a black cockade on any hat is usually the mark of a follower, a servant, an employee, or a sign of mourning. Traditionally speaking, civilian cockades should be made up of one's livery colours, or the livery colours of one's chief. And shame on those who do not know their chief's livery...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Actually, outside of the military, a black cockade on any hat is usually the mark of a follower, a servant, an employee, or a sign of mourning. Traditionally speaking, civilian cockades should be made up of one's livery colours, or the livery colours of one's chief. And shame on those who do not know their chief's livery...
    Or and azure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Or and azure.

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    It is mentioned in So You're Going To Wear The Kilt. that it is a legend or old tradition that says the ribbons indicate one's relational status (untied ribbons the heart of a young man free to admire the ladies.) and tied ribbons to indicate a married or engaged man who is bound by love and honour to his chosen mate.

    But the ending conclusion is that although it's a fun story and you can subscribe to it if you like, (I do for the fun of it) he just recommends cutting the ribbon off.

    And most "traditionalists" (I use the term lightly) insist it should be tied properly.

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    In my pipe band (and I know MANY other pipe bands to this too), the pipers wear non-diced glengarrys and the drummers wear the diced ones. I don't know why, maybe just to have the drummers stand out, but I think it looks good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labhran1 View Post
    It came from the highland regiments and the way drummers were classified in the old dress regulations compared to pipers. Its is long winded to explain and frankly not that interesting but that was the route of the issue.

    Just enjoy.
    Actually, a number of us would like to hear it. I know I would.

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    Mine being gules and argent (Donnachaidh), I've made several simple cockades myself. I'll try to get a photo as well for comparison.

    In fact, I've been thinking of replacing one of the white cockades I usually wear with a red and white ribbon cockade, so I think I'll do it and take a picture. I know all will be waiting with baited breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescot View Post
    Mine being gules and argent (Donnachaidh), I've made several simple cockades myself. I'll try to get a photo as well for comparison.

    In fact, I've been thinking of replacing one of the white cockades I usually wear with a red and white ribbon cockade, so I think I'll do it and take a picture. I know all will be waiting with baited breath.
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    Traditionally speaking, civilian cockades should be made up of one's livery colours, or the livery colours of one's chief. And shame on those who do not know their chief's livery...
    Well double shame on me then, because I don't even know what livery is in the first place. I don't know how I'm supposed to have livery colors if I don't have livery in the first place (or not that I know of anyway). What the heck is livery???

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