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5th April 10, 10:28 AM
#11
This site offers a good comparison, but remember actual samples are the best guide
tartan finder
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5th April 10, 10:44 AM
#12
Originally Posted by paulhenry
This site offers a good comparison, but remember actual samples are the best guide
tartan finder
Thank-you very much, but I think looking at the virtual swatches is what's confusing me. I guess I should have specifically asked for images of kilts in HoE modern. You're right though. I'm gonna need some more swatches in hand before I can decide.
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5th April 10, 11:25 AM
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Wait a minnit.....the photo with Hector and Molly...that's the tartan that my otherwise non-tartan-interested wife thought was really attractive.
How is it HoE (House of Edgar?) muted or modern...I thought that it was one of the MacDonald tartans.
Best
AA
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5th April 10, 11:50 AM
#14
Originally Posted by auld argonian
Wait a minnit.....the photo with Hector and Molly...that's the tartan that my otherwise non-tartan-interested wife thought was really attractive.
How is it HoE (House of Edgar?) muted or modern...I thought that it was one of the MacDonald tartans.
Best
AA
The tartan is Macdonald of Clanranald. The weaving mill (my best guess) is House of Edgar. I think the tartans shown in this photo are woven in the "Ancient" color scheme- based on the "orangeness" of the red and the fact that Hector is wearing "Ancient Red" hose flashes.
FWIW, the House of Edgar blue and green are much darker than Lochcarron's "pastel-colored" Ancient blue and green, by comparison. That often leads to confusion. One has to take into account each mill's "interpretation" of a color scheme when trying to make an ID from such a small photo. One other caveat- HOE tends to weave mainly in 13oz. and their tartans tend to have a smaller sett size, which results in more repeats of the tartan on the front apron, pleats, etc. These aren't bad things, but just something to consider...
This is what MacDonald of Clanranald in the Modern color scheme, woven by House of Edgar, looks like:
Best bet is to get fabric swatches!
Cordially,
David
Last edited by davidlpope; 5th April 10 at 11:55 AM.
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5th April 10, 11:55 AM
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HoE is a mill. Each mill works with slightly different dyes so there will be differences between each mill's version of say a MacDonald tartan. I learned this while picking an ancient Caledonia tartan. I looked at three physical swatches from three mills and each was generally the same while being specifically unique.
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5th April 10, 12:14 PM
#16
I would really like to second and third the suggestions that anybody who is really serious about a tartan get a look at an actual swatch rather than go by any of the photos on the internet.
...and that's not saying that the tartan weavers or kilt shops aren't trying to represent the colors as accurately as possible...
Years ago, I worked in a catalogue studio photographing....stuff that appeared in catalogues. One of the greatest feats of photographic strength back then was doing one shot of all of the colors of bath towels sold by a major catalogue (which name I cannot reveal but it rhymes with "beers"...okay?). Because of the different degrees that the various dyes reacted with the different wavelengths of light we used it was nearly impossible to get one photograph that we felt accurately represented the colors as seen by the human eye...it even went so far that we decided that we needed to employ an in-human eye so we asked the studio manager to look at it. You had to work in a catalogue studio to get that joke...
Just sayin'...in spite of everyone's best efforts, there's nothing like looking at the real thing to be sure that it's what you want.
Best
AA
Last edited by auld argonian; 5th April 10 at 12:23 PM.
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5th April 10, 12:22 PM
#17
Here is another site with virtually all the major mills various variations on the MacDonald tartans:
http://tartan-finder.com/MacDonald_Clan_Shop.htm
Like the others have said you are still best off getting swatches, but generally at this site you can tell within a single mill what the relative color variations look like, but don't try comparing one mill to another.
jeff
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5th April 10, 01:38 PM
#18
Originally Posted by davidlpope
... the fact that Hector is wearing "Ancient Red" hose flashes.
Ah, very good detective work!
Originally Posted by davidlpope
This is what MacDonald of Clanranald in the Modern color scheme, woven by House of Edgar, looks like:
As opposed to this which claims to be the same.
Yeah, I think swatches are the only way.
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5th April 10, 04:30 PM
#19
Originally Posted by xman
Ah, very good detective work!
As opposed to this which claims to be the same.
Yeah, I think swatches are the only way.
The first image is a scanned swatch of the actual tartan. The second image is a computer-generated file (looks like it came from Scotweb?). I think that is what accounts for the differences you're seeing.
David
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5th April 10, 07:11 PM
#20
It's funny y'know ... I've been thinking how much better I'd like the Clanranald Weathered colours if the brown was more green and the orange was still red.
Oh look!
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