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14th May 10, 05:46 AM
#11
 Originally Posted by Dram
The idea of wearing a dress shirt is probably not something I'd do because I wouldn't want it to distort the jacket...so I may give in and wear the lace.
Still considering....
I don't think a dress shirt will "distort" the jacket in any way at all. It's not like it is too bulky a garment, nor is the Montrose doublet cut so tight and made of such thin cloth that one can count the hairs on your chest!
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14th May 10, 05:57 AM
#12
 Originally Posted by Lyle1
You could cut the French cuffs off of a shirt and wear only the cuffs under your doublet. If the cuffs don't stay put, you could sew tiny snaps to the cuffs and to the inside of your sleeve. Aren't lace cuffs done in a similar manner?
Most of the commercially available lace cuffs I've seen have been made from lace sewn onto an elastic cuff, so no need for snaps.
Here is an image of the standard ones we carry, which I would say are pretty typical of what's out there and available today.

When my wife knit some Victorian Lace cuffs to match the jabot she had made for me, I didn't want any elastic, so we sewed the lace to a silk band, about 2" wide, which closed around my wrist with two small buttons. It was snug enough to stay in place, but still comfortable to wear.
I think sewing small snaps to the cuffs and the inside sleeve of the jacket is also a great idea, but this might be a DIY project.
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14th May 10, 06:38 AM
#13
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I wish I was of an age (no puff) and shape(too much weight) to wear a Montrose. The Sherrifmuir does allow for the fuller figure and is slightly better on the heat distribution problem. I am no piper, but might the lace cuffs get in the way whilst playing the pipes?
Yes. I was just using the pipes as an example of rare invites to events where a Montrose would not be over dressed. I think it would create some interesting sounds though...probably not desirable .
I am lucky in regards to the age/puff issue. I could certainly see that I have an expiration on the Montrose. If I do gain weight it's going to get very expensive.
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14th May 10, 06:41 AM
#14
 Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
I don't think a dress shirt will "distort" the jacket in any way at all. It's not like it is too bulky a garment, nor is the Montrose doublet cut so tight and made of such thin cloth that one can count the hairs on your chest!
It would still add bulk no? Glad they won't be able to count my chest hairs Sandy, they'd be there for an awfully long time!
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14th May 10, 07:14 AM
#15
My question would be "why would you want a Montrose if you weren't going to wear a lace jabot and cuffs?"
Victoria
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
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14th May 10, 06:11 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by vmac3205
My question would be "why would you want a Montrose if you weren't going to wear a lace jabot and cuffs?"
Well, there are many styles of jackets that don't require a jabot and cuffs. I also stated in this thread that I liked the look of the Montrose Jackey itself and said that I had an opportunity to purchase one at a bargain. My original question was: are there other options. Now that I've found out "NO", I can better make a decision.
There was also a photo at xmarks of a Montrose with a tuxedo shirt I believe. Just wondered.
Hope this helps
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15th May 10, 12:29 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by Dram
There was also a photo at xmarks of a Montrose with a tuxedo shirt I believe. Just wondered.
If i'm thinking of the same photo, that was something like a Montrose, but I dunno whether it has a name. Perhaps it was made with more of a double-breasted lapel, so that you could wear the collar open. This may or may not work for the garden-variety Montrose doublet.
If the facing is presentable, and there's not a dart showing, probably it's OK. I'd think the tailor would want to put a little more substance in the "lapel" portion to make it look good, but if the top buttonholes could be buttoned to the opposite side, that would make it work.
For extra credit, make it with a nice contrasting facing.
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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16th May 10, 09:35 AM
#18
 Originally Posted by fluter
If i'm thinking of the same photo, that was something like a Montrose, but I dunno whether it has a name. Perhaps it was made with more of a double-breasted lapel, so that you could wear the collar open. This may or may not work for the garden-variety Montrose doublet.
If the facing is presentable, and there's not a dart showing, probably it's OK. I'd think the tailor would want to put a little more substance in the "lapel" portion to make it look good, but if the top buttonholes could be buttoned to the opposite side, that would make it work.
For extra credit, make it with a nice contrasting facing. 
Still on the fence. If it's still available when I have the extra cash I may just purchase it.
In the interim I'll look into the Sheriffmuir and the Balmoral Doublet.
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