Project Clanranald WoB

[MacMillans son]

Ok X do I have this summary right?

The green, blue and black of the Lochaber WOB in the center photo, with the red of the Fraser, in the sett of the Lochcarron Weathered in the top photo?

[xman]

Ok X do I have this summary right?

The green, blue and black of the Lochaber WOB in the center photo, with the red of the Fraser, in the sett of the Lochcarron Weathered in the top photo?

Yes. The green and blue can also be seen in the Fraser, the red is in the Lochaber as well. Those tartans are both in the same colour scheme so any difference you might perceive is due to lighting differences between the images. The black is not seen in the Fraser and the white is not in the Lochaber. What appears to be white in that sett is actually a very pale blue which is common to the Lochaber sett.

But I'M nit picking. You've got it right, Brooke.

[figheadair]

Gents, there's a certain amount of misunderstanding evident about Wilsons' colours. Dalgliesh was responsibe for the invention of Reproduction Colours but Wilsons' colours differ considerably and should not be referred to as such. For clarity, my preference is simply to call them Wilsons' colour. Strathmore's shades are not too bad but are not accurate. Here're Wilsons' colours in a small setting.



Anyone interested - PM me for details.

Here are some of the Clanranald swatches I have gathered. Clockwise from the top are;
Lochcarron Weathered (this is the 7-7½" sett size)
Marton Mills Ancient
Geoffrey Tailor Modern (this is a 9" sett size)
House of Edgar Muted
Strathmore's Lochaber tartan in Wilson's of Bannockburn Reproduction colours is in the centre position. It shows the blue, green and black well.



Here is a judge from the BC Highland games wearing the Lochaber in Reproduction colours. Even in this crummy cell phone camera picture you can see the nice balance between the green and blue not available elsewhere.



This internet image of Strathmore's Fraser of Lovat shows the red better and, I believe, the correct white.

[Hothir Ethelnor]

I understand that reproduction or "weathered" colours are significantly different than Wilsons' colours.

Strathmore weaves some tartans in Wilsons' colours whereas Dalgliesh is famous for Reproduction colours.

However Dalgliesh is a custom mill and can and will weave to any shade they can reproduce in wool. Therefore it should be a relatively simple matter to get a custom run of tartan made in 15oz wool with Wilsons' colours in the large Clanranald sett from Dalgliesh.

I am interested in your Wilsons' Clanranald swatch do you mind sharing some details of it publicly?

[figheadair]

I understand that reproduction or "weathered" colours are significantly different than Wilsons' colours.

I am interested in your Wilsons' Clanranald swatch do you mind sharing some details of it publicly?

Don't mind sharing at all. What details do you think would be of interest?

[Hothir Ethelnor]

Well, who wove it, what the material weight is, sett size etc...

[figheadair]

Well, who wove it, what the material weight is, sett size etc...

Ah gotcha. It's about a 6" sett in roughly 16oz material hand woven by me in colours matched to Wilsons' 1783 dye receipes and colour matched to specimens of c1800.

[Hothir Ethelnor]

Neat.

I like the look of the colours but I prefer the tighter, more numerous yarns of commercial tartan weaves I think the thinner stripes look a bit bare being only 2 yarns wide.

I am interested in weaving tartan do you care to PM me with info on your loom and yarn?

[figheadair]

Neat.

I like the look of the colours but I prefer the tighter, more numerous yarns of commercial tartan weaves I think the thinner stripes look a bit bare being only 2 yarns wide.

I am interested in weaving tartan do you care to PM me with info on your loom and yarn?

Fine two thread stripes are a feature of many C18th setts and only later were broadened. The highlight that a fine stripe adds is subtle but very distinctive. Four or more threads can have the effect of over dominating the design. It's a technique, like a number of others that the trade no longer want to do for some reason, perhaps it's the economics. Another classic one was the use of a herringbone selvedge or a selvedge mark or pattern.

PM sent.

[xman]

Noticing a discrepancy between Dalgliesh's price sheet and their website concerning their K1, heavyweight kilting cloth I wrote them for clarification. This information arrived today.

Our minimum weave for double width is 16 yards @ £18.70 per yard .

Regards
K.R.Dalgliesh

So four kilts is all one needs to get their best price. This should be good news to anyone interested in any custom order.