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19th September 11, 03:13 AM
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Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
 Originally Posted by CDNSushi
The usage in this case is unclear.
Grommet:

Now I've seen the photos the first one makes sence, I always thought the earrings were called spacers or some such and of course I hadn't thought of Grommit.
 Originally Posted by CMcG
I guess if one asks a style writer for an opinion, they will get an ear full, eh? I wonder if the author wears a kilt?
The advice is... interesting. The one thing I take issue with is this:
"kilts can easily be paired with casual shirts and jackets. Treat them as any other piece of clothing."
Dressing the kilt as though it were a regular part of a man's wardrobe and not a costume is good advice. Wearing a jacket that is too long and doesn't have a sporran cutaway just looks sloppy and covers up too much of the kilt!
I thought when I read that that the original author had been meaning a leather jacket or another type of coat rather than a suit jacket of any veraity(sp?).
my opinion is that a jacket doesn't always have to be specifically for a kilt to be worn as such, I have a leather jacket I wear with my kilts it's not cut for a kilt but still looks good.
Just my tuppence.
The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
He kens na where the wind comes frae,
But he kens fine where its goin'.
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19th September 11, 04:28 AM
#12
Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
 Originally Posted by Jordan
Sounds like fairly good advice to me, What's a Grommet anyway?
"Grommet" ("grom") is a term used to describe a young participant in extreme sports. The term originally was used in the sport of surfing for anyone under the age of 16. However in recent years, the term has been expanded to include other extreme sports, most notably skateboarding and snowboarding."
Doesn't sound like the thing to have on your kilt though... Style "experts" really should be more specific...
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19th September 11, 04:53 AM
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Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
I have several jackets of the light autumn type that fall right at the hip (perfect for a kilt and sporran) as well as a leather jacket in the "classic biker" cut which does the same.
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19th September 11, 09:05 AM
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19th September 11, 12:55 PM
#15
Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
 Originally Posted by cessna152towser
Well its good to see recognition of the kilt as a casual garment but the writer's attitude to canvas kilts with cargo pockets is rather disappointing.
I've read a lot of men's fashion advice that is written in a snide and condescending tone, but this one isn't too bad. Perhaps some of this is meant to be humorous, but it can make the writer sound flippant, or to those with deeper knowledge, they might sound as if they formed their opinion of all things related after a single glance at one person.
This is against canvas kilts, but it could have just has easily been against the traditional kilt from what I've seen.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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22nd September 11, 04:37 AM
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Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
Sounds like pretty good advice to me: if you want to wear your kilt, wear it. You can dress it up or dress it down. I can't argue with that.
The writer seems to be referencing Utilikilts with his "canvas kilt" comment.
I feel two ways about them... To me, they don't fall under the realm of Highland Dress and I have no interest in them. But on the other hand they are an interesting and attractive modern fashion (one which I see worn in public quite often).
So I'm fine with the writer's preference for proper kilts.
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22nd September 11, 12:47 PM
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Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
"There has been a revival of male skirts as everyday wear in the past decade, and kilts can easily be paired with casual shirts and jackets."
No one on this forum would know anything about this, would they?
"You'll find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." -Obi Wan Kenobi
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22nd September 11, 01:15 PM
#18
Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
Don't feed the grommets after midnight and never get them wet.
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22nd September 11, 03:11 PM
#19
Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
Grommets. It's a Roman thing.
I've brought this up before. A few people, who know very little about the kilt, have told me that Utilakilts look like "Roman kilts." As best as I can figure out they are talking about pteruges, or strips of leather armor worn by both Greek and Roman soldiers over tunics at the waist. They didn't understand the strips of leather are not attached to the cloth of the tunic, and associated them with pleats of kilts, and the narrow aprons of the Utilakilt.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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22nd September 11, 03:22 PM
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Re: Globe and Mail style expert gives kilt advice
 Originally Posted by BruceBC
Thought this article would be interest. Russell Smith, the paper's style expert, answers the question
"I have acquired a family kilt and was wondering what can I wear with it?"
His answer is as follows.....
"There are strict rules about Scottish ceremonial dress for various levels of formality, and you can find them in detail online. They involve finding a series of accoutrements with fantastic shivery names: sporran, ghillies, skean dhu. But I don’t believe in reserving such flattering garments for weddings and funerals. There has been a revival of male skirts as everyday wear in the past decade, and kilts can easily be paired with casual shirts and jackets. Treat them as any other piece of clothing; invent your own outfit. I like heavy boots with a kilt, as male legs can look a little spindly without them. The classic combination of leather brogues, wool knee socks and a tweed jacket is too conservative for city life. Instead, try a black cashmere hoodie and tall lace-up work boots (with the laces not done all the way to the top, of course). Kilts don’t have to be tartan, but please avoid the canvas “utility” kilts that you see environmentalist Goths in – the ones with the cargo pockets. Rough fabric and too many doodads work against the spirit of elegance in fine pleated wool. So no pockets, grommets or chains."
From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Sep. 16, 2011
the url
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...rticle2167593/
Overall not as bad commentary as I would expect from a mainstream publication's style editor--positive view of the kilt, and some sound advice, except for the slam at Utilikilts...
"Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.
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