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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

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    The photos above (of Mrs Bucket ...er, Bouquet) made me ponder how hilarious it would be if the Queen's car broke down in from of the house of Onslow (or similar real-world person) - oh well, it would be good for the Queen
    Ooooo. She could have tea with Rose and Daisy in the lounge while Onslow and the D of E shared a beer in the kitchen!
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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

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    Ooooo. She could have tea with Rose and Daisy in the lounge while Onslow and the D of E shared a beer in the kitchen!
    And the dog...?

    If the Queen ever needs to visit the colonies, her Highness is more than welcome to pay a visit to my humble abode. I'll even break out the German tea service (it's my Great-Great Gran's).

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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

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    And the dog...?

    If the Queen ever needs to visit the colonies, her Highness is more than welcome to pay a visit to my humble abode. I'll even break out the German tea service (it's my Great-Great Gran's).

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    Or Her Majesty, for that matter.

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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

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    But she will be opening the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting where the issue will be discussed.
    Yes, I think so. As the succession affects all countries of which she is queen every country must be in agreement

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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

    The Queen!
    As for the change to the succession, one wonders whether the EU is putting pressure on Britain to drop male primogeniture.
    It is certainly a politically correct move (which to me means avoid it at all costs!).
    And how long will it take to get every Dominion to agree to the change?
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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle View Post
    The Queen!
    As for the change to the succession, one wonders whether the EU is putting pressure on Britain to drop male primogeniture.
    It is certainly a politically correct move (which to me means avoid it at all costs!).
    And how long will it take to get every Dominion to agree to the change?
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    However, I doubt this proposed change to the Act of Succession (1701) has anything to do with the EU which has various member states which are constitutional monarchies (UK, Spain, Belgium, The Netherlands, Luxemburg, Denmark, and Sweden). Of these only Sweden has gone to (eldest child) primogeniture over male primogeniture, although the Norwegians (outside the EU) have followed the Swedes.
    This first came up around 20 years ago when it was proposed by Lord (Geoffrey) Archer, and both the Queen herself and UK governments of right and left have made generally supportive noises. The complexity is securing the consent and a workable timeline from all the Commonwealth realms (they are not called Dominions anymore), for something that while of public interest is a low political priority.

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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

    Okay, Peter, Commonwealth realms it is now. But when South Africa belonged, it was a Dominion, and it still seems appropriate.
    A while back I read an amusing piece speculating that the succession could go to Princess Anne and through her to her daughter Zara. The writer suggested that “Queen Zara” could make her husband king – just imagine rugger player Mike Tindall lolling around as the king!
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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

    One of the arguments used for changing the law of succession at this time in favour of the oldest child regardless of sex, is that it would make no difference to anyone currently alive. Prince Charles (born 1948) is older than Princess Anne (born 1950), with Prince William being Charles oldest child.

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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

    The last time it could have made a difference was when the eldest child of Queen Victoria was a female - Victoria, Princess Royal who later became Empress Frederick of Germany and Queen of Prussia. She was the mother of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

    Had she been the heir it is possible that that she would have married differently than she did and produced different offspring than she did.

    But she would only have outlived her mother by just over five months, dying on August 5th 1901.

    Ah, the ifs of history!
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    Re: Her Majesty The Queen, about to visit Australia

    From the BBC, regarding the future succession in those Commonwealth nations where HM Queen Elizabeth II is Head of State.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15492607

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