Kilts and Clergy wear

[Jock Scot]

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By the way Jock, I didn't know the Church of England was in your neck of the woods. Could this kilt-wearing cleric actually be from the Scottish Episcopal Church? If so, although part of the Anglican Communion and popular with English Christians living in Scotland, definitely not C of E. They were, after all, proscribed by parliament after the '45.

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You have got me there, frankly I have no idea! I only visit a church to pay my respects to those that are getting married or, the dead and the details of either service mean little to me. I am on nodding terms with the local clergy, but I have----as you can see-----only a very hazy idea to which team they are batting for.

[thescot]

On ther rare occassions that I wear a collar with the kilt, I wear a charcoal argyl. If I had the occassion for a more formal outfit, I would probably opt for a rabat or vest, which comes from Almy with covered buttons (http://www.almy.com/Product/31139/ca...rgyApparel-Man) , I believe similar to the above photos) with dog collar (which is the only kind I wear) and cuff links.

A PC with the silver buttons would proably be a bit "shiny" for my sacerdotal sensibilities, but I doubt that I would not wear it should the occassion call for it. Afterall, Scottish Highland fashions are known for being quite colorful and shiny. I cannot imagine wearing a white waistcoast with the collar as the first photo shows. It's not a matter of the priestly office; it's a matter of fashion choice. I just don't care for that white vest covering up the black shirt.

[piperdbh]

Brother Henry,
Are you wanting to wear the Argyll in the pulpit or to parties, events and other functions where you would not necessarily be presiding over a "church" affair? If the latter (because I can't imagine you not albed and stoled in the pulpit), then replacing the shiny buttons with non-shiny ones will be easy, and probably the best choice.

[Riverkilt]

A Sharpie, or other black marker, can take away the button shine a lot easier than the other options....just saying...

And YES!!! to more colorful clergy....enough "dour".....enough "somber"....Gotta say somewhere that rejoicing is a good thing and colorful garb is part of rejoicing...

[Jay]

I'm emended of Peter Griffin, Homer Simpson or Jim Varney opening the closet to 10 identical outfits.


That said, I whole heartedly encourage any man of God to wear a kilt if his heart desires.

[Stirling McQueen]

Canterbury Pewter in Virginia (canterburypewter.com) offeres blazer buttons in the form of the Canterbury Cross. While it may be a stretch, the cross is part of your pre-reformation heritage as it dates to about 900. Since they are pewter they are toned down and not a bright shiny finish. I am sure you could order the appropriate number of small and large buttons for your jacket. This is something I am considering for my own clerical/kilt wear.

Peace
Henry

[FatherWilliam57]

Those Canterbury Cross buttons are beautiful! Thank you for the lead. They would certainly make for a unique jacket. Plus there would be additional pieces to match (brooch, cufflinks, etc.). It is something for me to consider. However, if you finally decide to get these, please be so kind as to post pictures!

[FatherWilliam57]

Assuming I switch out the buttons on my Argyll, what size should I use? I need to know the "traditional" size (14mm and 19mm?). I would also like to know what size buttons I "could get away with." In other words, can I use larger buttons on the sleeves, say, the same size as the front button? Obviously, the buttons on the shoulders need to remain the same, but what about the rest? Were any other sizes used historically?

[Father Bill]

Assuming I switch out the buttons on my Argyll, what size should I use? I need to know the "traditional" size (14mm and 19mm?). I would also like to know what size buttons I "could get away with." In other words, can I use larger buttons on the sleeves, say, the same size as the front button? Obviously, the buttons on the shoulders need to remain the same, but what about the rest? Were any other sizes used historically?

Best guide for that is . . . the buttonholes. No, you won't do them up, but there's the gauge.

[SlackerDrummer]

Assuming I switch out the buttons on my Argyll, what size should I use? I need to know the "traditional" size (14mm and 19mm?). I would also like to know what size buttons I "could get away with." In other words, can I use larger buttons on the sleeves, say, the same size as the front button? Obviously, the buttons on the shoulders need to remain the same, but what about the rest? Were any other sizes used historically?

The buttons that came off my Argyll jacket (except for the front button) were the same size as the buttons on the vest, so I replaced them all with the smaller buttons (like on the sleeve of a blazer). Military doublets use the larger buttons everywhere except on the epaulettes, but that seems like a lot of bling for a civilian jacket.