tie with a prince charlie?

[McClef]

Just to be awkward I don't dislike the look of a Ruche tie with a PC and have worn one on occasions.

But I still think a Bow looks better!

[Tim P]

What do you think of a tuxedo with a suit tie?

My point exactly, you can see where my caution comes from. I may say hang it and go white shirt black bow tie and be done with it.

another option for me is my RAF Tartan (we were in the air force together), bluegrey hose and so on.

[rondo]

A PC when worn with a 4 in hand looks better with a 5 button waistcoat. But not traditionally correct. Of course I got run off from the traditional forum so just ignore me... like this: http://buyakilt.com/silver-prince-charlie-kilt-outfit
Rondo

[Bob C]

Bow tie. Period.

[Caddy One]

Not a fan of a tie with the PC....however I believe there are different types of
tuxedo shirt collars Wingtip - Lay Down - Mandarin... I may not have the proper names of the collars...

Maybe the lay down collar might look a little better with the tie....."enuff" said on my part....................

[Lyle1]

A PC when worn with a 4 in hand looks better with a 5 button waistcoat. But not traditionally correct. Of course I got run off from the traditional forum so just ignore me... like this: http://buyakilt.com/silver-prince-charlie-kilt-outfit
Rondo

I was thinking the same thing after seeing the photos earlier in the thread. A long tie, even a ruche tie, simply does not look good with a low cut vest; the prorportin is off, and the tie looks like it is trying to escape! Even with a tux, the people I've seen wearing a four-in-hand-tie were wearing a five or more button vest with it.

[Tobus]

What if the tie is worn without the waistcoat?

[Lyle1]

What if the tie is worn without the waistcoat?

Again, I think it is a matter of proportion. The cut of the lapels on a PC draws your eye to the lower part of the torso. Without a waistcoat, a long tie is accentuated, and with a bow tie and no waistcoat, the shirt is accentuated. The PC really looks better with a waistcoat whether it is the traditional low cut or a higher cut waistcoat.

[chrisupyonder]

A grey(silver) bow tie can work very well, IMHO.

You beat me to it. I agree. First thing that sprang to mind.

Chris.

[CMcG]

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I am prepared for a rethink as I have other options.

What are these other options?

Ultimately, the Prince Charlie is a very formal looking jacket and can't be dressed down too much. If you choose to wear a long tie, I'll support what others have said: it will be more visually balanced with a higher cut waistcoat. If you want to be traditional, the PC is worn with a bow tie.

Here are a few examples of the PC with ruche ties, with a regular tie, and with no tie at all (if you are a movie star). The first is the from the link that Rondo else posted: